Exploring Complex Societal Issues: A Thought-Provoking Conversation with Joshua T Berglan and Herbie Kay

By Joshua T Berglan

In a recent episode of "Conversations with Joshua T Berglan," host Joshua T Berglan engaged in a compelling dialogue with his guest, Herbie Kay, that delved deep into a myriad of complex societal and cultural issues. The conversation, which spanned topics from the traditional nuclear family to human sexuality and the implications of modern technologies, offered viewers valuable insights into the intricate dynamics of family, society, and technology.

Traditional Nuclear Family: Historical Significance and Societal Impact

Herbie Kay began the conversation by shedding light on the historical and cultural prevalence of the traditional nuclear family across diverse societies. He emphasized the vital roles played by fathers and mothers in nurturing healthy children, underlining the potential repercussions society could face if there is a deviation from this fundamental family structure.

Sexuality Spectrum and Marriage Redefinition

The discussion took an intriguing turn as Herbie Kay explored the spectrum of human sexuality, emphasizing the fluidity of individual attractions. He provided historical context on homosexuality, both in human history and within other species, and shared his perspective on marriage redefinition. He proposed alternative solutions, such as civil unions, while expressing disagreements on the redefinition of marriage.

Implications of Modern Technologies and Human-Machine Merging

Delving into the future, the conversation addressed the implications of modern technologies, including the rise of artificial intelligence, and the potential merging of humans and machines. Herbie K underscored the importance of maintaining a strong traditional family foundation amidst these advancements, offering a thought-provoking perspective on balancing progress with stability.

Challenging Conventional Norms and Exploring Diverse Perspectives

Throughout the conversation, Joshua T Berglan and Herbie K engaged in a thought-provoking exchange of ideas. Their discussion challenged conventional norms, providing viewers with diverse perspectives on issues related to family values, human sexuality, and the impact of technology on society. The conversation also touched on topics such as gender identity, the LGBTQ+ community, and the societal consequences of various societal shifts.

Timestamp Highlights:

- 0:00 Introduction

- 2:32 Importance of the traditional nuclear family

- 12:58 Relationship between technology and family

- 25:25 Disagreements on marriage redefinition

- 38:47 Societal consequences and gender transition surgeries

This episode of "Conversations with Joshua T Berglan" offers viewers a unique opportunity to gain valuable insights into these pressing societal issues. As the conversation comes to a close, viewers are left with diverse perspectives and thoughts to ponder, encouraging further dialogue on these important topics.

Stay tuned for more engaging conversations on "Conversations with Joshua T Berglan."

Transcript

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Joshua Berglan: Okay, I'm heading I hit record because what the mistake that I made yesterday was that I wasn't recording. When we first started talking and it was off the rails hilarious, so I don't want to miss a moment. So I'm failing to do a proper introduction. But ladies and gentlemen, this is the guy I was telling you about the 1964 plan man, Mr. Herby Kay. make Okay, I want to ask you something out of the game.

Herby Kay: are

Joshua Berglan: Because when I was going through your website in the introduction, I love that you want to end homelessness. and violence mass murder all of that. But one of the things that you talk about is bringing back the traditional nuclear family.

Herby Kay: yeah.

Joshua Berglan: Can you describe what that means to you? what is that?

Herby Kay: It's the same definition as the last 10,000 years of civilization's History. It's a wife supporting and raising children together with their respective talents has been the case in every other culture in the history of humanity in every religion. every continent just the way it was why we think somehow that we are smarter than the entire span of History blows my mind. And when I did time in prison, I'm just telling you that the reason for all that for example, we're recording this right after the Lewis then Mass murder that took place and they're out there still looking for the maniac that did it.

Herby Kay: I bet you lines that there's a 99 out of 100 chance. That guy is the product of a single parent family. I know now it's not always true. But for example C it's survey the wrong word of study about five years ago to that point of all the mass murderers in the 21st century all but one were the product of single parent families. That's regardless of gender regardless of religion. I understand that. There are lots of reasons why that cat is out of the bag. But if we don't put the family back then we're Pardon my language. Am I let's say f*****.

Joshua Berglan: You could say f***.

Herby Kay: Okay good.

Joshua Berglan: And it's probably appropriate for the secret nature that we're in. I think Buck was appropriate.

Herby Kay: we're f***** because What's going on, It's really simple Joshua. We have this world of accelerating technology. So through the span of History until until Roughly 1908 1910 mankind wallowed except for the outfits and the slight change in the Weaponry. We all lived about the same for all that period of time people. If you live to be in your mid 40s, you're an old man or an old woman a third women died in childbirth. That's why everyone got married. So young.

Herby Kay: It was not unusual for most of your children to die before they reached the adulthood. Look at Abraham. Lincoln's kids just one example only one actually reached adulthood and that was not unusual for the time and for all that's period of time. We had the traditional nuclear family now modern feminists who were really nihilists. I hate. I consider myself an anti-feminist feminist in the sense that I think there should be equal pay for equal work of course, but is that is the case is a statistical b*** story. I don't want to get down too deep into the weeds, but that happens to be true but

Herby Kay: When we discovered oil in Pennsylvania in 1859 and then began using it as fuel at the end of the 19th and early 20th century that changed everything. I realized that his popular to beat the s* out of fossil fuels but that's what kicked off the technological development. That's why suddenly we went from no middle class agrarian society, to where we're took eight people to grow the food for the 10. In other words are our agricultural. This is a good example of what's happened. It used to be that 80% of the population up until the 20th century worked in agriculture because it took 80% of the population to provide food for a hundred percent today. It's less than two percent and that's because

Herby Kay: Fossil fuels in fact now it's less than 1% of our population can not only grow food for all of us.

Joshua Berglan: Wow.

Herby Kay: But for the whole world besides the only reason they're starting people in the world is politics not lack of food. don't ever get confused for that b*******.

Joshua Berglan: amen Good.

Herby Kay: Okay, we've got tons of food and we have a lot of crazy people here in the west this is a slight digression but my family business was produce. So it's something I really understand. No one's ever been killed or hurt by genetically modified organized by GMO. I don't know why people have a heart on for GMOs are what Saves the World from starvation. It's all that means is modifying the genetics of a plant so that it survives better in the environment where it's grown. That's what a GMO is so you get a better deal.

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Joshua Berglan: Wait, no. No. are you saying that it doesn't change the bioavailability of that food? or Robin of its nutrients

Herby Kay: I don't*** about things. I don't know and I don't know if that's true. But what regardless of whether Robson of some of its nutrients or it's bioavailable availability you have to put in context if you get the yellow corn which is a big GMO right now in the world because it's resistant the insects and disease even if that rice is tritious then naturally grown writer brown rice which by the way, there's no difference in nutrition between white and brown rice. That's another f****** that but anyway, but we passed around s***. we really know what we're talking about when we think it's brown. It must be better than white, but it's not just like brown eggs are exactly the same as white eggs guys. It's just the color of the shell. I mean, if you like brown eggs by all means get brown eggs, but they're not better. I'm so anyway,

Herby Kay: The alternative isn't non-GMO or GMO in most of the world. The choice is started that they're not and you can grow a hell of a lot more rice with a hell of a lot less water in a hell of a lot less insect Problems by using genetically modified organisms. And there's no case of anyone ever dying from a GMO. Not one. So this is just typical of modern history. I don't know why I went down f*** GMOs Joshua. I have no*** idea. But back to the traditional nuclear family, so I don't know that rest are that so the bottom yeah, and by the way, you got to pay attention because when I start digressing in my age, I can lose where the f*** I was so I'll need you to help me out.

Joshua Berglan: I'm paying attention.

Joshua Berglan: So you're fine.

Herby Kay: People okay.

Herby Kay: Okay So back on Tech traditional nuclear family. As the world is Computing has made Technologies advances speed up and it's getting faster and faster and faster. And now we're on the custody of AI which is the big, catchphrase now first of all before we all get too freaked at by AI the current IQ of the world's best AI is slightly better than an earthworm and I'm not saying this to be funny I'm saying that the machine has no self-recognition. Okay, it spits out that in response the data put in but it's not thinking don Everyone needs to take the chill pill the Terminator is not coming for a while yet, but he's coming and…

Joshua Berglan: He's coming.

Herby Kay: I mean if you want me to really get crazy if we pull this off right what's gonna happen is that humanity and machine is going to merge. Ultimately I mean …

Joshua Berglan: singular

Herby Kay: If we don't kill ourselves, I think it's almost inevitable because it would introduce. Concept in humanity that if we want to travel the stars and travel the solar systems and explore other places and get out of Earth before the sun burns up. And by the way, we last that long, the dinosaurs lasted much longer than we have so far before the admit the big meteor said so we'll see but if we somehow manage to get there, it will be as a combined life form which then makes the time it makes

Herby Kay: time okay theory of Relativity and thanks relativity. Look at me. I'm f** Cena. It makes relativity you're irrelevant because the amount of Relativity says basically you can't travel faster than the speed of light now. is there such thing as warp drive. Can we find a way to go faster than the speed of light in a Star Trek movie? theoretically it's possible but Maybe not. t even know we don't know. So even…

Joshua Berglan: Good.

Herby Kay: if that's the case and the best we can do is build a Starship that travels at the speed of light, which means that At the speed of light the travel to the nearest star where we have found the planet that we think there might be life on It's about light years away. So at the speed of light would take 11 years for the ship to get there and if they turned around the same day 11 years to get back but on earth a couple 100 years would have gone by which is how time bends in relativity. The point is when we become a singularity with machines of all matter. we'll all be basically living forever. The people that are alive in those days that won't be people and they won't be ashamed but to get to that place, okay, and assuming that that's a place. I don't know that there's really any choice but to get to that place frankly, but to get to that place.

Joshua Berglan: Yeah.

Herby Kay: We have not destroy ourselves and to do that you have to have a foundation on the house and that Foundation has always been and will always be the traditional that we're family which is and extremely adaptable institution with roles that are vital to raise a healthy adult human being like, without a father you don't learn boundaries and you don't learn deferred gratification. Those are the two most important letters lessons the fathers teach generally and then to their daughters, they teach the most important lesson of all, which is you're not a s*** you have and you have a value in the world. So without all these things what we've done is created a society of sodomites. It's like, the term ideas on parade and if we don't calm it down and take that out of the mainstream, we're Okay, I went as far as I need to go with that.

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Joshua Berglan: Okay time out, but I'm gonna drag you back into the hole. I think so.

Herby Kay: Okay.

Joshua Berglan: Where does that place bisexuals and transsexuals and the 85 other sexualities that exist?

Herby Kay: So first of all, you're either straight of your gay and then there's okay. This is Herby's theory on sexuality. I mean, this is gonna be I literally never discussed this with anybody out in the oven. But here we go. What the f***? So I see sexuality is a spectrum. So let's call it on a scale of one to 10. Okay one is you're an absolute heterosex. No, you're an absolutely homosexual and 10 is you're an absolute heterosexual and then there are degrees in between and unless you're lying. There are very few people on the planet Earth. We have not at some point in their life been attracted even for a fleeting moment to someone at the same gender. Okay, and…

Joshua Berglan: my You going?

Herby Kay: there's only okay look and there's only two genders boys and girls, that's it.

Joshua Berglan: I said

Herby Kay: I don't want to get into the b** slicing and okay, that's b***** That is evidence of the depravity and the generacy and sodomy that we have slunk into that popular culture and so-called professionals like doctors psychologists psychiatrists have the temerity to even endorse such a stupid f** idea. It doesn't even bet and by the way again, I keep digressing up my digressions. I have a lot of gay friends straight a male and female in fact my dog sitter who watches my dog when I travel is a lesbian. And I've talked to her for many many hours about this. she never asked to join that the lbgtqia plus you…

Joshua Berglan: he

Herby Kay: I'm just telling you how she relates it to me and I have another friend who's gay a guy who's The exact same thing separately. right, which Don't want us in with the rest of that crazy*. All…

Joshua Berglan: I my God. Yes.

Herby Kay: almost homosexuality is a natural thing. It happens in other species of animals there and there are I don't know if it's Nature's birth control or God's way of keeping an edge on things or whatever. However, you might want to take it. As much as I personally. By the way, but I always tell my gay male friends. I said, the reason that straight men like lesbian p***, but we hate gay p*** is that it's the up factor. I mean the whole thing is. Yeah, I mean, to a straight man the idea of taking it up the poop shoot from another man is yuck. I mean, I'm sorry, but there's whatever. I mean a gay couple I can't help but think to myself these guys are taking it up the poop shoot with each other and who's on top but

Joshua Berglan: Thank you.

Herby Kay: it doesn't bother me because they're doing that in their own f* bedroom. And as long as they don't share it with me and some graphic detail then I'm cool with it. I have to be honest with you. I opposed the broken felt decision that make gay marriage legal. I think I said that right throughout the entire country the Supreme Court decision. We're gate here marriage now, I don't think a couple should fall under the traditional institutional marriage only because of Once you start breaking down each boundary to what a traditional marriage is. It turns into what it's turned into which is a giant cluster Buck of meaningless relationships and unhappy men and women, but before I get into that,

Herby Kay: I think we actually had the right solution back under President Clinton, which was civil union. I mean, you can get married. I mean not get married you can declare for each other. You can be in a monogamous relationship. You can get each other's health insurance through work. You can done it up put together your retirement plans leave use the author trust in a structure in an estate to leave your partner, the other part of your estate yet. You do all those things, but it's not a marriage and the reason and it can't be just because it destroys the very Foundation you're** around with something you don't understand, and we don't understand, there are no ness. There are no Solutions. There are only tradems and if you don't understand what the trade-offs are when you do something you shouldn't do it, which this is really getting deep but it's always formulating the 1964 plan a lot of what I thought about was that was and…

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Joshua Berglan: Yeah.

Herby Kay: the centralism was founded by A Downing lots of about 600 years before Christ. And it's religion and a philosophy and the two things are separated. So I'm not a religious Dallas but philosophically the central concept that that was in is it's better to do nothing than to be busy doing nothing. Okay. So in other words if that's really what it comes down to so…

Joshua Berglan: Yeah, yeah,…

Herby Kay: if you're faced with dilemma Right…

Joshua Berglan: you're right.

Herby Kay: if you're faced with a problem and you think you want to solve it. You probably should just leave it the f*** alone. It'll solve itself.

Joshua Berglan: mmm

Herby Kay: Okay, so I'll use a very platform example. This is going to make me no friends. But here we go. And this is not the War. and slavery which became a poster child for the Civil War now. I don't want to get into it what the Civil War was really thought about because it really wasn't thought about slavery was the poster child for…

Joshua Berglan: right

Herby Kay: what it was fought about but what would have happened? if the South would have been allowed to succeed which was there, right and under the Constitution they had absolutely every right to do it. I'm sorry again I'm not defending slavery is an institution. I'm speaking strictly in the context of that time what they were thinking about it was not so much about slavery is don't tell us what the f*** to do. Okay, that's really came right down to and…

Joshua Berglan: Yeah.

Herby Kay: we're tired of being it, told what to do from a central point of view. And so we're gonna succeed and so they succeeded and then Lincoln is who made slavery essential religion. you have to understand that Lincoln himself was a politician like any other and

Joshua Berglan: Yep.

Herby Kay: Tons and tons and how I get into the Lincoln from traditional nuclear family and what the Michael so Lincoln I'll stay with it because I'm here so Lincoln for the day that bullet went through his brain his concept all along was Expatriate the slaves to Africa. He felt that the two races could never mix and it was if he had lived and he had not been assassinated. His idea of reconstruction would have been to round up the slaves put him on ships and send them back there. I'm sorry. That's the truth of it. It's not that he saw that black for inferior and not even being he thought they were even things but a different species of human days and you have to understand that until we understood DNA which wasn't until the 20th century. We had no idea that we were all related. so when you look at it had nothing with race so much as we all look at ourselves like different breeds of dog. Okay, and a dog doesn't understand my Airedale Terrier who ran into a German Shepherd puppy this morning. We were out at the park the

Herby Kay: Played together but they had no idea. They were both dogs. I mean, just once a German Shepherd one's a Terry, the history of Native Americans. I'm reading a very interesting book right now by the way called Empire of the summer Moon and it's the story of the last Comanche chief his name with Parker and his mother was a white woman who was kidnapped by the Comanches during the raid in 1830 on the Texas Frontier. And then chose to remain with the Comanches became so much a part of their culture that although

Herby Kay: If you have an opportunity to leave many times, she never took it she stayed and then she married a command to Warrior and Chief and if everything you think, about Indians, by the way, you don't and when you start to read about what was really going on, so the Comanches actually were an Empire and they control all of northern Mexico through the Great Plains up through the North and what they did for a living and the reason they were able to do this is that they were the ones who got whenever the other tribe got horses from the Spaniards. Look I'm in the command seasons and we started out traditional that he keep going on this The only people I think I'm just a fountain of useless information and…

Joshua Berglan: Yeah.

Herby Kay: I promise It's not useless. I'll bring it around but this is why by the way American Education just sucks stuff,…

Joshua Berglan: Yeah, I agree.

Herby Kay: but this is stuff people should know and you shouldn't learn about Cowboys and Indians from western movies. Okay, nor should you think that you have a better view of it by watching Dances with Wolves now, I love dances with that's my one sentence and Sue but here's the thing. police do We're getting slaughtered by the Pawnee in that movie, but they were slaughtering the Pawnee right back. I mean, this is what these indigenous people. Do. You have to understand that the entirety of Native Americans we're never going to be able to stand up to either the Spaniard.

Herby Kay: For us they were just lucky it was us and not to Spaniards the dominated that and by the way, that was the choice not between you get to live free on the planes. It was Art where the Spaniards gonna overrun them or were we going to overrun them or both because these people had not invented the wheel. They were 5,000 years behind European culture. Okay. The question was only…

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Joshua Berglan: Wow.

Herby Kay: which European culture was going to roll over. Okay, that's it. They never had a chance from square one. Now when the commit they didn't have the wheel these people did not know how to practice agriculture. They had no f* chance. They were going to be and if it wasn't us it's gonna be another try. So the Comanches were an Empire they were decentralized Empire. There's no such thing as a big chief. That's why we kept by the way, I'm* up negotiations. It took us a long time to figure out then when you made a peace treaty with this Chief it had nothing to do with that Chief. There was no big chief of the Comanches you could make a deal and that Chief could keep that deal, but it had nothing to do with all the other bands. It was more. Important to which band but in the Comanche Empire they all Advance cooperated with each other when necessary would come together.

Herby Kay: And what made them so deadly was they mastered the horse and we're all the other tribes used where I know in the movies. It looks like the Indians are attacking and they're all on Horseback. The only Indian tribe that attacked on Horseback were the Comanches all the rest would do what we used to do until we figured out horseback Warfare which was Dismount and go into the battle on foot leaving your horses behind but the

Herby Kay: She's learned how and they were the greatest Horsemen besides the moments perhaps only the Mongols were as good as the Comanches but the problem was is that you spend a lot of time on Horseback. This is really obscure, but it kills your fertility. So the Comanches could not replace themselves. So the reason they would rate and capture Whitecap this and also captives from other tribes was because they're women we're getting impacted at a rate fast enough to replace and maintain the trucks population because of how much time the men spent in horseback getting their balls beat up. I mean I did there's no other way to look that happens to be true.

Herby Kay: and I don't know why I went here just to point out that in the span of History everything's connected. And before you do anything you need to think to yourself. Would it fix itself? So back to slavery for a moment? which is why I get on this. I don't know why but by the way, the Comanches owned over thirty thousand black slaves just like the point that In fact, there's an entire Comanche Army that thought for the South and in fact, they were the last Southern Army to surrender. I don't know if anyone really not understands that Native Americans kept here's an interesting statistic in the world in the South. There were about 30 to 40,000 free slaves that over the years various owners had given their freedom when they died or the rewarded them but they remained in the South and here's the best part 10,000 of them on their own black slaves.

Herby Kay: But that's a historic fact slavery in the context of the time was not a racial issue. I'm sorry. it was every single black person in this country has been sold in slavery by another black person. So let's cut let's come back to and that's a fact because of malaria there white people couldn't go into the African continent because Larry Felton less than nine months and until 1858. We didn't even know what sulfur was the treat malaria. So it was an automatic death sentence. So anyway, the average life expectancy of a white man in Africa prior to 1858 was nine months and…

Joshua Berglan: hope

Herby Kay: the reason that slavery ended in this country in 1865 ultimately, but slaving in other words bringing Africans from Africa to the United States that And the reason it ended in 1838 was the death rate above deck was his size the death rate below that so while yes, those people were all packed together horribly in the whole of those ships and dying from all kinds of s*** the guys on the deck. We're dying at the same. Right from malaria because they had absolutely nothing to defend themselves against with these African slaves. And so it became obvious not to bring any more African slaves. They didn't understand what caused malaria they just knew that it was killing. Everybody was coming from Africa. They figure that out colloquially the same way the ancient Jews figured out not to eat pork and they didn't understand what trichinosis was you can figure things out colloquially if you're smart, you observationally and so

Herby Kay: Back to talking about it's good I go into what I go to Lincoln in relativism. I said so and I went away what? so

Herby Kay: the last word into today, we have just f***** the whole thing up. Let's just come back to today. We've just f***** the whole traditional nuclear family up and if we don't repair it, there's nothing else that matters. It doesn't matter what our foreign policy is. It doesn't matter what parties and power it doesn't matter and nothing matters. If we lose the traditional nuclear family, which we are 52% of babies today of all across the border born into single parent families if we continue this trend we're done.

Joshua Berglan: I want to jump in here because when I was doing my opening I went to your website and then I got to that nuclear family car and…

Herby Kay: It's you.

Joshua Berglan: I wonder what his definition of This Means because I'm not traditionalist as far as that man or…

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Herby Kay: There's a man or a woman who gets married.

Joshua Berglan: even yeah that part or woman's at home at five o'clock making dinner and all that hold on,…

Herby Kay: No, no, that's not for that in the kitchen. Yeah.

Joshua Berglan: so I really love your answer because it makes sense. And even I am. As far as homosexuality and the LGBT community. I don't support anything that has a well-funded agenda behind it. But that said

Joshua Berglan: I theoretically could be a part of that Community, but I'm not because I don't like those groups and I don't like agendas and I don't like the way that it's been perverted in bastardized in forcing people's faces because there's an agenda there the over sexualization of children drag queen Story Hour F all…

Herby Kay: 

Joshua Berglan: but completely different You…

Herby Kay: Attracting the gay manner to completely different things. I don't know that the general public understands that and…

Joshua Berglan: no but they know.

Herby Kay: looking them all together isn't fair. He said

Joshua Berglan: But they don't understand it. That's why your answer. I am so grateful for your answer and…

Herby Kay: said e

Joshua Berglan: I want to make this part clear what you said about sexuality being straight over here% gay 100% straight and there's this lighting Spectrum.

Herby Kay: E E

Joshua Berglan: I want 1000 per cent agree with what you said about that…

Herby Kay: credible

Joshua Berglan: because that is why ever I don't want to label what I am because it doesn't need to be labeled. it's beautiful.

Herby Kay: Look.

Joshua Berglan: You describe that me.

Herby Kay: I have had a homosexual experience not sexual but big attracted to another man in my life. I'm not gonna lie about there have been men in my life.

Joshua Berglan: Yeah.

Herby Kay: Not a lot. I remember the first time I experienced it. I was in junior high school and it was an Italian kid named Rocky something and…

Joshua Berglan: 

Herby Kay: for some reason I found him attractive. I don't know I did that on it. He didn't act on it. We never talked about it. It never came up. but it was

Herby Kay: I don't know I never gave it any thought until everyone made a goddamn issue out of it. I mean having a passing the attraction and then you kind of following whatever little side of the line makes you comfortable and some people heterosexuality is real the rest of its b*******. And as far as if I were lesbian or gay

Herby Kay: Being lumped in with transsexual transvestites. let's call them what they really were and are prior to this modernization spread. The festivism is the central fetish now it has a lot to do with body dysmorphia and is a lot to do with confusion. There are genuinely transsexual people in the sense that but they're very small percentage and they're almost always men. they're historically the reason that by the way,…

Joshua Berglan: yeah.

Herby Kay: whenever I get into a debate with some nutcase who believes this is true. I always say where are all the old transvestites in other words when a transsexuals when I was a kid And you're not as old as I am. It was gay people really did have to live in the closet. it was not a good time to be gay in America and…

Joshua Berglan: Yeah. No.

Herby Kay: and all of us growing up. I knew gay men and women everyone. ster my algebra teacher and Junior High School Mitch Hutchison who lived with A friend on a farm, and I mean, Now we kind of figured it out even then but just that the thing was it was like don't tell us the whole society. It was just no one gave a s*** now once homosexuality came out of the closet once and…

Joshua Berglan: mmm

Herby Kay: for all which was a good thing and plenty of other cultures in history, but I mean, I have to tell you the Romans were much more healthy sexually than we were I mean they understood I mean Caesar would sleep with the boys much to sleep with the girl. I mean that's actually historical fact go ahead look it up and…

Joshua Berglan: Yeah.

Herby Kay: and no one thought anything up. It was just a completely. not gonna maybe more healthy way of looking at things but still they had a nuclear family and still there are reasons for certain structures in the culture but back to Trend. So when gay became acceptable in this country almost every gay person. I know came out of class said, thank God that was the end of it. And now I just don't think anyone posts. of course there are whole house, but most people really don't give a s*** not at all and

Herby Kay: So if that's the case and all of these claws that it gaze and lesbians came out. Where are the quasian closeted transsexuals now that's acceptable where are all the 40 and 50 and 60 and 70 year old transgenders that supposedly have existed because they came into the wrong body. Where are they and the answer is they don't exist. And the reason they don't exist is this is all b***. this is also a product of a breakdown of nuclear family because if you watch these devouring mothers and I'm using the definition of Sigmund Freud and Carl Jung both who they competed with each other but they both agreed on this this is one of the devouring mother is a mother…

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Joshua Berglan: Yeah.

Herby Kay: who lives her life through her children to the detriments of the children another term for that is munchausen's by proxy because they love to get attention and…

Joshua Berglan: Yep.

Herby Kay: we have a national and the epidemic of munchausen's by proxy and it's being supported by the popular culture, but the thing is Never existed before because where are the old transgenders these and it virtually never existed among girls. So when it does exist and it's a tiny fraction of one percent. It's one in a hundred thousand people by the way,…

Joshua Berglan: Yeah.

Herby Kay: statistically. Okay that are genuinely gender confused First of all, their life is that there's nothing to be done for them in the end. I digressing slightly my best friend in the whole and oldest friend is urologist in Philadelphia. And so he's done a lot of gender reassignment surgeries over the years. He just retired and we've talked about this.

Herby Kay: he said I mean this could be a little graphic but When a man decides that hes a woman he's with one in a hundred thousand people have true gender confusion and he left for the surgery and he's been counseled. And the way that we used to work is you get canceled don't do this don't do this, but if they would insist on doing it What milky my friend's name is melty told me that the vagina that they produce this the replica is pretty realistic. In other words that when they say enough of the stimula of the head of penis that and…

Joshua Berglan: Yeah.

Herby Kay: they and he said obviously it doesn't stop lubricate. Obviously, you're not gonna have a period obviously there's no room but it does look and operate generally like the Giant But here's what I didn't know when they build an artificial penis, which if you've ever seen a photograph of what that looks like, it is not attractive,…

Joshua Berglan: It is awful.

Herby Kay: It's all number one is it can't get hard unless what they do is they take one ball and they put fluid in it a hydraulic fluid and the ball. they take out one test the goal and they put in this artificial testicle. It's got this fluid and a one-way valve and a release of how you release it and you basically pump up your fake penis with this Hydra. I'm not making this up so that you can achieve kind of tration on a woman who would be weird enough to let you do But there's no collector in it for you at all. And it's just the mechanical acting you're not going to ejaculate or achieve orgasm. So What?

Joshua Berglan: What's the effort point?

Herby Kay: What's that?

Herby Kay: What's the

Joshua Berglan: I said working effing point.

Herby Kay: Suicide rate among post transitional surgeries traditionally is over 50% what they find out is that after they have their penis cut off they find out they're no happier than they were before and…

Joshua Berglan: Yeah.

Herby Kay: they end up becoming deeply depressed and killing himself. Now this suicide rate has accelerated since we started to include women into this because

Herby Kay: This is not reversible. Okay this b** that you can pump a pre-adolescent full of either testosterone or estrogen. there's some kind of machine and you can just turn off your puberty and turn it back on when you feel like There's not going to be a consequence. You've got to be stupid. You need to be a doctor to understand this even the shares do Penny of that. Okay now,…

Joshua Berglan: Yeah.

Herby Kay: The suicide rate among boys has remained more or less flat all of this time, but the suicide right among girls starting in 2014. It looks like a hockey stick. It goes like this And this is never spoken to most of the girls who fall into this trap of going with what there's single stupid mother said there's no way to put the fat and unattractive girls. Mostly. So if I mean, I don't know any other way to put this the pretty girls don't do this. It's always the fat unattractive Outsiders 99 times out of 100. I know someone's gonna write a comment on the bottom of this saying but my daughter's beautiful and she's a boy and all that Okay, there's an exception to everything but by and large by and large and when you consider it's one in a hundred thousand people traditionally.

Herby Kay: That for example, I know personally one of my friends has two granddaughters who both have said their boys that is statistically impossible to have two children in the same family having the same gender dysphoria that's possible statistically can't have and yet it happens all the time that you would have two or three or four or five or a nested transgenders in the same high school or Junior High School is statist. The Impossible especially on you

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Joshua Berglan: It's the programming through our

Herby Kay: had those families been traditional nuclear families and had there been a father involved.

Herby Kay: She would have put his foot down and said no f****** way. He would have immediately filed for divorce because that would be grounds. He would have gotten rid of that crazy b**** and had custody of those children on his own got a restraining order and kept her away from those children forever, which is bad, but it would be worse will turn loose this mentally ill Munchausen by proxy nutcase on her own children. Sometimes the alternatives are both bad, but once worse than the other so what we've done by this is just another book one more byproduct of the breakdown of the traditional nuclear family. This is never happened before in history because no father would have ever tolerated now again, I know someone's gonna write say I'm father and I would yeah, you're a p You're a lunatic p****. If you're a father, I'm sorry, there are lunatic pussies out there. And this is not a gender judgment. I know plenty of manly gays and p**** heterosexual. I'm just saying that the father is it's a puss.

Joshua Berglan: but

Herby Kay: Adult and that's too bad for the kids. they lost the lottery of fathers, but most fathers would drag their kids out of there and Would well restrain their ex-wife get rid of them lock them up do whatever they had to do. These women are just playing dangerous and I don't pull a punch on this. But what else do you want to go but

Joshua Berglan: No and I don't I appreciate your candor because interviewed I had friends that are drag queens that speak out against these agendas and I hearing from their perspective. There's always been very enlightening to me hearing what you're saying it's their hard truths, but I believe that you're speaking the truth, and I'm not a I'm not really liberal either. I'm just kind of a common sense guy and to me you're saying common sense and…

Herby Kay: as you…

Joshua Berglan: you What?

Herby Kay: I don't endorse any party Democrat Republican,…

Herby Kay: I don't care you as you…

Joshua Berglan: Yeah. I'm a political too.

Herby Kay: I'm a political I don't care but true …

Joshua Berglan: So we in line.

Herby Kay: I think the politicians are generally and this is the term I used on the websites and I love this term. And by the way, I stole this term from Carl hyacin. Who's an author who writes really funny books. He's a reporter for the might.

Joshua Berglan: It called great.

Herby Kay: Yeah. have you read that Carl Ison?

Joshua Berglan: Yes, of course.

Herby Kay: Okay.

Joshua Berglan: He's amazing him into my two favorite authors.

Herby Kay: So I

Herby Kay: Okay, so I never played your eyes. I always give credit he says he and this is a book about when skank the governor who walked away and has one eye and lives in the Everglades that character which is a great character. If you guys haven't read Carl hyacin, you are missing a true joy in life. So in this particular book skink, who's the next governor of Florida? I'm called politicians obsequious handing weasels. Can I being conniving s*** weasels?

Herby Kay: What let me see something about maggots anyway, so I use those terms because that's how I view them. They're obsequious handing s*** weasels. Okay, and conniving doesn't begin they will fall in line with whatever suits their pursuit of power which I can go into that for hours. So I'm a political and the 1964 plan is a nonprofit but it's not a 501c4 and the difference is when you donate to us, it's tax deductible versus a C4 where it's not because C4s are political action committees. Basically, those are the super Pacs and things like that. We're strictly educational I'm here to discuss the plan and anything else you want to talk about but as far as who you want to vote for I don't give a s*** because they're all the same. It's a una party in my view and…

Joshua Berglan: Yep.

Herby Kay: and one of the biggest questions I get is this is a great plan when we get into it happy to discuss the parts of it, but a lot of guys will say skeptically and understandably. This will never happen and not I always can see you're right. It won't happen now, but when the radical becomes reasonable when the s*** hits the fan and the s*** is hitting the fan right now and…

Joshua Berglan: Yeah, yeah.

Herby Kay: we're gonna go into a global depression and as you know, I have a strong background in finance. We're gonna go into a global depression that's going to make the Great Depression seem like a happy memory. This is going to be a real s*** show and it's already begun and it's all there. Don't over underestimate the power of the general population to live in denial as long as humanly possible and there's nothing to be done about at this point when people ask me when I say this, what can we do to prevent it Nothing, it's already here.

Joshua Berglan: Nothing nothing.

Herby Kay: There's nothing to be done. what I'm talking about is what's going to come on the other side of that. So there's got to be reasonable Alternatives.

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Joshua Berglan: Yeah.

Herby Kay: Otherwise, we're going to get a Hitler that's what happens. so when you have a total societal breakdown you get a radical political alternative now the Great Depression, we got a very very socialist president and FDR and if you understand the Great Depression It didn't have to be the Great Depression FDR and updated the Great Depression. So what people don't know about the Forgotten depression of the 20th century. So there was another depression in the 20th century That No One Ever Knows about and it was the 1920 depression. It lasted from 1920 to 21. It lasted nine months because the president during that Depression was Warren Hardy by the way, the mainstream hates more and Harding because he was a Dallas kind of presence. So what do we do when the Depression hit?

Herby Kay: He cut government spending dramatically. He did absolutely nothing to stimulate. He had absolutely no work plans. He greatly reduced the size of government the tax burden generally and understand that when he was president on the income tax existed, but was not much of anything. He suspended all of that and the economy recovered nine months all by itself because

Herby Kay: That's what a free market does, at depression happens when forces build up usually by human intervention that have to be cleaned that and the only way through any problem the street ahead and that almost always involves an economic downturn now, we had another depression that took place in 1933, but the difference was Herbert Hoover at first and then followed by FDR who did nothing more than continue whoever's policies on steroids. Both of them tried to use the power of the government to shorten the depression and ended up causing a Great Depression. They would have left it the f*** alone. It would have been over in 1934.

Joshua Berglan: Wow.

Herby Kay: But instead it didn't really end until a 1945 after the second world war and all that pent up the man basically dragged the country out of it Roosevelt was dead and by that point the country had had enough of that s*** and an elected a republican Congress would screwman called the two-nothing Congress. But in fact was the Congress to stop Truman from the tuning a European style welfare state in the United States and by doing that we then had a run of presidents who did try that until we got the LBJ and we had that golden period which is where the name 1964 plan comes from was the end of the golden period where we had next to no crime. The United States was at the top of this game. We were involved in no Foreign Wars and we passed the Civil Rights Act making all forms of discrimination illegal. We had the World by the ass and we finally got rid of discrimination as a legal action and all we had to do from that point forward was nothing and of course we did and we thought that all up here we are.

Joshua Berglan: Herby, this is what I want you to do. I want you to close this out with this. I want you to share the plant the 1964 plan share how people can support it why they should support the floors yours to wrap us up with the 1964 plan.

Herby Kay: So the 1964 plan is a detailed plan on how to restore the traditional nuclear family and then at the same time through prison reform and the drug war which I'll talk about in the minutes and national service. We can return the country. Where we were in 1964 not in the sense that I want to put women in the kitchen or anything like that, but how we Face the future in 1964.

Herby Kay: To once again be at the top of our game. And so whatever comes our way have the kind of foundation under us that we can weather whatever the future breaks. I don't know what the future brings. You don't know Nobody knows what the future grants. But if you have a strong Foundation you can deal with whatever comes up if you have no Foundation if it's all about me then we're gonna end up right where we are, people don't understand Rome never fell it became a church. And the reason it became the Roman Catholic church.

Joshua Berglan: That's right.

Herby Kay: And the reason that became the Roman Catholic church and in the East Eastern Orthodox Church was because the traditional Empire descended into the generacy and that then Emperors at the time then selected religions on Constantine Christianity. And in the Eastern Orthodox Church Christianity is what the different flavor of a whole different view on the Virgin Mary. And I want to get into theology but that's the difference between the two churches. That's the Jewish boy. I know what I'm talking about, because but

Joshua Berglan: Me too, and you're right. Keep going.

Herby Kay: Okay,

Herby Kay: But we're not going to transition to a church. We're just gonna go to nothing. I mean, what people don't understand this all of us are Christians whether you're Jewish or a Muslim or not, if you live in the west because the dominant Theology of the West is Christianity and Christianity is what makes the West better than everywhere else. I'm sorry. It's true. And at the center of that is the sanctity of the family, and this is the most important part that people don't understand as a Jew you've heard the term the Jews consider ourselves the chosen people that doesn't mean we're that.

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Joshua Berglan: Yeah.

Herby Kay: We're chosen to be special by God the only ones that go to heaven which I think is what a lot of people think. That means it meant that we were chosen to bring law to the rest of mankind. So when Moses walked down from Mount Sinai whether you believe it's true or not. He carried with them the fundamental laws upon which all laws of the western culture or Okay, and that manifest as Christian thought we call it judechristian thought because the religion Christianity in Jesus himself was a Jew but really truly what Christianity it has the Judaism is a sense of afterlife which makes you want to live your current life, maybe a little better because you might have to pay a front Jews don't have state and Jews don't have Heaven per se. I mean, we maybe kind of talk about it, but not really it's not a big thing like it.

Herby Kay: Christianity and…

Joshua Berglan: Yeah, right.

Herby Kay: the other thing the Christianity about the Judaism is about having a second chance and what we've done in our culture is we've thrown that away somewhere along the way so when you look at this most recent shooting so back to the plan and how let me talk about the plan and they'll get the Practical effects of it. So

Herby Kay: Personally have to solve the breakdown of the nuclear family. The plan says there are three causes to the breakdown of the nuclear family. No fault divorce the birth control pill and the welfare state now, I'm gonna go through this fast because everything I'm about to say you can go to the 1964 plan.org website and I've written a white paper on every part of these. So there's a lot of buttons to say learn more click on any one of those buttons. You'll go through the white papers and I wrote them I thought them so I don't just make up s*** because I tell you where I get my stuff but the very same time that's different between a white paper and b*. Right? And there's also I guarantee everybody who's watching when you go to read the plan. They're gonna be parts of it and I'm gonna tell you that's why it's a plan and not propaganda. I didn't write this to run for office. I have no political ambition at all. So when I wrote this my whole thought mind was to leave the culture better than I found that after I dropped it because I'm

Herby Kay: Obviously in the last quarter, I hope it's a third but probably a quarter at best of my life and that's okay. I'm okay with it. I'm not afraid of dying because so many people have done it before just fine. it's like I've done worried about I'm not gonna have to perform but until that happens. I want to try to redeem myself because the f***-ups I've made along the way and at the very same time. In fact, I wrote the 1964 plan in prison. and you'll all understand that when you go listen to the video and done how I came to all that kind of stuff. I don't get into my crime because the minute you do it starts turning into weaseling and I got what I deserved I paid the price for it and the story if no one can forgive me for that. There's nothing I can do about it. If you want to judge me by the worst thing I've ever done then Judge Me by the worst thing I've ever done but a lot of let's say you considered

Herby Kay: Piece of s*** that doesn't preclude the fact that it might have written something brilliant and that's what the 1964 plan is. there I'm not asking for your vote. I'm just asking you to read the plan Okay, so What not really the truth if for office, you could disbelieve every word I'm saying cuz obviously everything I'd be saying would be propaganda designed to get me elected. But that's one of the reasons by the…

Joshua Berglan: Yeah.

Herby Kay: I don't sit on the board of the 1964 plan nonprofit. I'm not an officer of it and I don't deal with any of the business. It's all done by other people and I'm not aware of what goes on and I did that on purpose for two reasons one. I don't want to believe what I say and by any kind of self-interest and secondly because of my background when people donate I don't want them to think I'm pocketing it. I don't even know what our balance is. I can honestly tell you I don't know where we Bank to be honest I am the Creator and the front man. I did that on purpose. I divorced myself from that. So we'll never become an issue. So back to the plan now,…

Joshua Berglan: smart

Herby Kay: I know for no fault divorce.

Herby Kay: The worst thing we ever did was make divorce easy because by doing that we converted marriage from a commitment into just another long term relationships so that now you can walk into a court anywhere for any reason and say your incompatible and that's all you have to say and you can get a divorce and if your spouse you tough s***, if one party wants to divorce everybody's getting a divorce and With no, but now first of all that f**** women. Because prior to this when no fault divorce didn't exist women got the better of it financially over 90% of the tongue.

Herby Kay: Because in those days under traditional marriage women weren't working outside the home and by the reason they weren't working outside the home traditionally. It's because most of the jobs held by men were jobs that women can't perform bricklayers and plumbers, whenever they get into the traditional nuclear family and wise, the radical feminists always talk about careers like stem, science technology engineering math Fields. that's this much of the population that can even perform at that level. Everybody else is mostly people and…

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Joshua Berglan: Yeah.

Herby Kay: most working jobs are extremely physical and extremely physical jobs are not done as well by women as men nor do do really want to be high-rise construction workers. Do they really want to be plumbers? I mean, I mean, I don't know if you've ever been around professional plumbers, but they don't get paid enough part. I'm concerned. I mean,…

Joshua Berglan: Yeah.

Herby Kay: we're generally working with s*** all day long. do you want to take that job now?

Joshua Berglan: literally Yeah.

Herby Kay: Someone do it the s*** doesn't move we're all in trouble if It was more supporting the function very well. Okay, it used to be in London you ask the Britain what the term guardalu means gardeloo? Okay, what that means is in the old before that we had sanitation and plumbers and all that. They would open the windows on the top floor of the house. Let's say and they would just the night part out the window and before they would they yell.

Herby Kay: And that's why they call it the loop the pooper and they just throw the s*** right out the window into the street. And if you were dumb enough or unlucky enough to be under you would get hit by the s* falling from the windows. I'm not making this Go ahead fact. Check me every Britain if you anyone British or Scottish, which is the same thing Great Britain English or Scottish and under the Great Britain thing. They'll know what Garden Loom means. it's still persists to this day. So women aren't going to do those jobs.

Herby Kay: So how do you solve the fault divorce issue? It's simple by getting governor the government out of the world out of the marriage business altogether. So marriage if you're religious obviously be a function of your church and the government does not need to tell churches or synagogues or must how to get people married or temples or It might be whatever if you're religious regardless of your religion. Obviously, you're religious. I don't want to say just church is there so many religions on but your religious institution can sanction marriage and the other part of that is if you're not

Herby Kay: Edges then just let an attorney draw a contract because that's what it is. you need to go down to the court hearths and get the permission of the state to get married. I don't understand how we got the state. Why are we licensing marriage? And then what they do is f*** everything up instead let the people who aren't religious negotiate with the marriage contract is and I got news for you that no lawyers been a represent the client male or female without getting them the best deal possible even a bad lawyer knows that so they're gonna negotiate a deal that's hard to get out of which is very very important. Because it should be harder to get out of marriage than the break of Business Partnership and today it's much much easier and that's because when you get married, it's not let me say this prior to having children.

Herby Kay: Get divorced. I don't give a s***. If you don't have children and you want to make your life unhappy and not have children knock yourself out as the father for I'm telling you children are a blessing. they're also a giant painting artist,…

Joshua Berglan: amen Yeah,…

Herby Kay: but it's all harder.

Joshua Berglan: Amen to that too.

Herby Kay: And when you become married It's not about you anymore. And that's a Christian value and a Jewish value and a Hindu value and a Muslim value then a Buddhist value and a Taoist value and a shintoist value and an animus value that is universal and then kind we are here if you people what is the meaning of my life. I'll tell you it's right now is to replace yourself.

Herby Kay: Okay, that's what the meaning of your life is now. It's to replace yourself and have a little fun. It's So that's why by the way human beings are the only species of animal that doesn't die at the end of our fertility and we have somehow beaten that where other we used to die at the end of our fertility. The reason the average man and woman would die in their 40s. That's about when women going to menopause and men don't have a sperm count high enough to make babies anymore. That's why you can't make your dog live longer than it's going to live. That's why you can't make a horse live longer than it's gonna live because once it is no longer fertile. The Nature has no use for it. And this is why the salmon die in a dramatic example. We are the only species who have figured out through technology how to extend our lifespan past the point of fertility. So, I mean, theoretically I could knock up a girl now, but would almost be the second coming of Jesus Christ. It would be a miraculous impregnation and what happened to be with the girl inappropriately too young women, my age are no longer capable of

Herby Kay: Baby, so the point of that is we have kind of because of longevity f** up what we think's marriage and life is about but what it's always been about and what is still really about is replacing yourself at least with someone as good as you were and hopefully better but we've done exactly the opposite. So the first thing I would do is take the government out of the marriage business and once it becomes a contract or religious if you're about for example it for you for an observant you can't just divorce you have to get against and it gets which is comfortable re Rabbinical council is very hard to get because they understand not because they're some two-dimensional evil chauvinistic Pricks that depicted in some movies, but because they understand it's about the children, not you and we've talked ourselves in believing things for example, it's better for the kids if we get divorce because we're always arguing

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Herby Kay: and I'm sorry exposing your kids to an argument. That's not abuse of your children. It's showing them what happens in life and how to deal with those things and you're teaching they're not going to go through their life without having an argument with whoever they end up with. I'm sorry, they're not going to go through their life without experiencing all kinds of bullying and s***. We have protected our children in the decadence is what we've done. Okay, I mean people like bullies another good example bullying All these do a service you're gonna run into this bullies your whole life. If you don't learn to deal with them as a child, you're not gonna have a f** s***. You're gonna end up in some little p**** isn't it's an adult you're gonna get eaten on your whole life. You're gonna always be the victim and never the Victor. But okay, let's continue with the plan. So that's how we solve the fault. Of course. We just get the government out of it. Let it become either a non secular contract or a non-secular.

Herby Kay: Finding religious belief or a secular contract. Either It'll be almost impossible to get out of it as it should except for chronic domestic and out of control addiction. I don't see any other reason for divorce. And by the way 80% I don't know if I told you this before Joshua but 80% of domestic violence arrests are women and 80% of domestic violence is done by women on men because I again no radical feminists ever since this but men generally don't hit women under any circumstance because we understand that we could kill even if we're mad enough to hit them we refrain from it because we don't want to hurt where's a woman can beat on a man to help reasons over and generally not hurt unless you pick up a broom, which is another story. That's why they get arrested by the way. Here's some trivia question for you Joshua what percentage of domestic violence involves alcohol?

Joshua Berglan: S* 90%

Herby Kay: 100% it's always that one, It's always alcohol because even a pig let's say that the movie version of the child of a wife-beater exist and they do really bad men these men even they try to control it but they get a couple of drinks in them. They go exchange it we've all met me drunk guys that are okay on the outside, but the next you get a couple drinks and they turn in the just mean m************. That's by the way why every other drug is better than alcohol. Because none of them making end up being f*****. I mean I could think when I was in prison.

Joshua Berglan: That's true. Maybe really horny, but

Herby Kay: When I was in prison, the junkies were the greatest guys to be around because all they did was sleep. They didn't bother anybody they laid in their racks and they were just mining their own** business and they were highest guides and God bless, and the med pants never got violent. All they did was picked their eyebrows so they were gone. But that's another story.

Joshua Berglan: if I Don't need to be reminded of that life.

Herby Kay: I have so many stories. It would be up all night, I could go on and on I know there the Met that's crazy.

Herby Kay: My God, there was a joke in prison how do you find the tweaker? And in any City you go to Walmart at two o'clock in the morning. He's the guy in aisle five with the cart turned upside down trying to fix the wheels. That's the tweaker, that they never sleep. They're constantly all they're doing is playing with s*** and f****** and that's what's leaders do. So anyway.

Joshua Berglan: That's pretty much. Yeah.

Herby Kay: So now we solved I mean I saw but that's step one on helping nuclear families getting rid of they'll call divorce step two the thing that caused break down the nuclear family second. Cause is the but birth control pill didn't exist in the United States until 1 prior to 1961 on most people got married as virgins now. without getting graphics I know as soon as I say that everyone's going to think about when they were in high school and all the things they did that were sex. There's all kinds of sexual things that we've been doing for centuries without actually, oral sex digital manipulation, but I mean kids have been doing that forever, but see that the bottom line is no one was getting pregnant. Okay, and women knew that would fall on them worse if they got pregnant before marriage so girls married as Perkins, they might have given their boyfriend a hundred b*******.

Herby Kay: Now we're getting into what is the Clinton thing but yes that sex…

Joshua Berglan: Yeah.

Herby Kay: but it's not you can't get pregnant from a b**. I'm sorry. I don't know any other way to put that so I mean, I wish I could dress that up and being but I'm just talking like a normal person not a politician. So we're not going to get rid of the birth control pill. But we're gonna and the reason that's bad by the way, and the reason we have so many unhappy women is because when women became like men, it could f*** anyone they want without worrying about getting knocked up then the issue of sexual comparison came and we're never existed before. So what that did is it started to create women's mind. possibility of a man

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Herby Kay: That doesn't exist. So they would along the way have great sex. That's usually a faster kind of guy because the guy's gonna be the best and debt is the most alpha male, but they realize they don't really want that guy. they think themselves they keep looking for this combination of men who stares at the stars and knows how to f*** great and they just don't exist. So they end up waiting a long time they get to be plus Authority is telling them you don't have to have kids right away put it on. So now they get off the 28 29 30 years old their baby clocks are going off and all the good men are taking because there's still

Herby Kay: smart enough women out there that snatched up all the good ones young. The reason that you have lost is a teenager is God's way of getting you to get married young when you're in your Prime reproductive years, you're reproductive Peak is 18 to 21. The reason that you're screaming with sexuality at that age. Is that God telling you get married less than love is not discernible until you've been married for a while. Just listen the story of love it. First side is unbelievable less the first time which is great. I love lust as much as the next person but when you introduce sexual comparison in the old days when people got married as virgins what only ever done is basically give each other hand jobs and oral sex, then when they finally had sex it was like pizza it was good. all things is good. Unless you've had Brooklyn but in the midwest there's a change called Kay's Pizza. I mean Casey's they're like a 7-Eleven.

Herby Kay: Circle Weirdly enough they make great pizza until you've had Brooklyn Pizza. It's the point. I'm gonna make in other words. It's really good for Iowa Pizza, but if you go to have Brooklyn Pizza, you're not going to think that's how sex is now if two versions get married in Iowa and the only person they've ever actually f***** is each other. They have a much better chance of staying together because they would work on their sex life because they don't know anything else really exists. Okay, but when you…

Joshua Berglan: There's truth on that. There's water through that.

Herby Kay: but what do you think hymns on TV H? I am that's that company. It's selling generic Viagra by the truckload. It's because every man out there knows he's being sexually compared while he's having sex so he cheats because I can tell you that I've used it and I'm gonna tell you right now when you use Viagra and you're perfectly healthy man, the result is you get a hard on the cat food scratch. It's like less it's not so much that you get one. that it's hard as a rock and this is how but now think they have to be in order to be attractive to women and women have this unrealistic expectation because they're getting** by men on Viagra. So they're getting these correct. I mean, the whole thing is such an unhealthy thing. Okay. I'm not saying there's the place for a Viagra at my age. Yeah, I mean

Herby Kay: But I don't really date me one at this moment, but I'm not close to the concept but my age are not particularly sexually arousing to me. So in order for me to have sex with a woman that's appropriate for my age. I have to use Viagra. That's the truth. I'm not really attracted with my own age very much. I mean, I don't know what else to say anymore. by the way to be fair. I look like an old man up with my clothes off too. I mean, that it's becomes a certain reality, If I was richer than God I suppose anyway,…

Joshua Berglan: Yeah.

Herby Kay: I never get okay.

Joshua Berglan: I appreciate…

Herby Kay: So now we

Joshua Berglan: what you're saying. I let some I've got like this is all so fascinating.

Herby Kay: but rapidly …

Joshua Berglan: Let's get through this. Yeah.

Herby Kay: so Let me think through it. step three. So I covered the birth control We're Not Gonna Get rid of we're gonna have to take care of that by teaching Chastity. the third thing is the welfare state I don't Advocate the end of the welfare state but I is evolving it to the states. And the reason I advocate doing that is that the only the welfare state has f* up the family because it incentivizes women to have children without husbands. That's what afbc is but we call welfare is Aid the family with dependent children and it pays you to you only get money if you have your child out of Winlock and for every child you have more children, so you might as well hung out the move out of your house and get your own money sign to young girls all across America and it's the single largest contributing factor more than the other two the breakdown of the nuclear family particularly in

Herby Kay: End of the culture the poor people. So that's what Falls most heavily on the black community now in order to but on the other hand, we're compassionate people. We're judeo-christian Christian, whatever you want to call it. And we believe that there are people that need help and I agree with that. So we're in the world. Is there a successful welfare state and the answer to that is Norway Denmark

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Herby Kay: And now why are they success? They're not socialist by the way, that's a burning fat. They all abandoned socialism. And then Canadian 81 to socialism doesn't work in other words State owning that enterprises and regulating prices and all that kind of s***. All of those countries have free economies than we do what they have are welfare states. And the reason it works in those countries is because they have very small populations. So for example, the largest Scandinavian country by population is Sweden and sweetness population is about 10 million, which makes it smaller than greater New York City or Greater Los Angeles by itself. That's number one. it's a lot easier to administer a plan with 340 million people and the other difference between Sweden and us is that they are racially homogeneous. They're all sweets. there are a few Muslims and everything Jews living there but very few as a percentage of the population 98% Swedish,

Herby Kay: White people now that does make them better worse just means that when you design the program, you can design it custom for the population because you understand how they're going to react to certain stimulus and certain incentives because everyone thinks the same way that's not going to work in the United States when you have black people white people Asian people all kinds of different flavors of Asian people Japanese hate the Koreans the Koreans hate the Japanese they the Chinese take both of them it goes on and on. Okay, you can't want people together by color or race. We have a million different religious breakdowns Catholics. Look at the world differently than lutherans do everyone in sweetness author. in our country. We're 30% Roman Catholic. That's another division. We have a million of these things. So instead we devolve the welfare state from the federal government. Shut the whole f** thing down all the h h u d h s on the Department of Labor everything but basically defense State the attorney general and the treasury everything else can get shut down and

Herby Kay: move it to the states by doing that you get two things number one is every state is essentially a country. We're basically 50 countries with open borders. That's what we are. most of our states are the same size or bigger than most European countries like, California would be the biggest country in Europe. Alaska would be the biggest country in Europe. Okay by landmines.

Herby Kay: And they're all demographically different. So let the governor of Wyoming design her welfare plan for their state which is going to be very different than the governor of the governor of California, New York, Illinois, Texas. They all have unique demographics to that state. You're going to get a much better plan when you can design it and administer Hey closer to your customers. because when your customer lives in your neighborhood you have an incentive to do better than if you live in Washington DC. So in other words here in Arizona, the governor of the state is a woman named Katie hops, she lives about a mile and a half for me. If I wanted to I can go over to where she lives and show up on her front door now because I don't want to I'm not going to she's fine, but the point is

Herby Kay: That alone makes you much more answerable to the people that you're serving than if you're a congressman and bearing it in 5,000 pages of a companion resolution that nobody the f*** understands. Okay, so I had been by devolving to the states. A lot of these negative incentives will go away because no state would be stupid enough to design a plan that says leave your husband basically don't get married talk about babies right away that has to leave the states to do it. And the reason that I know they'll do it is because States can't print money so they can't do with it what the federal government is doing which is run up 33.

Herby Kay: Million dollars in debt and it's a moral because we're borrowing from the future to pay for the press and it's not like we're building a national highway system like Eisenhower did he borrowed money from the future? Because he knew that all of us benefit from the interstate highway system that the government built. So borrowing money to do that is perfectly legitimate, but to borrow money to pay current benefits and make people pay it off down the road who are never going to collect those benefits. It's not only stupid. It's more. the state can't do that because the state can't print money. There's no such thing as a Federal Reserve in a state so.

Herby Kay: It will just automatically take care of itself. We don't have to get into the weeds of what every State's going to look like let the governor and the legislature and the mayor's and the local population design their own plans as much as let and here's the other thing that people don't understand about Scandinavia last point in the move on to the next part of the plan. Am I going way too long Joshua I can see by the look in your face. I'm just going way too f****** long.

Joshua Berglan: I've had to use the bathroom for 40 minutes. So I pray I'm very uncomfortable right now just…

Herby Kay: That right.

Joshua Berglan: because I have to you so…

Herby Kay: That is too funny.

Joshua Berglan: why don't you keep talking I'll be right back I can hear you.

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Herby Kay: Okay, go ahead my friend. So anyway.

Joshua Berglan: Yeah.

Herby Kay: I love that by the way in my age. I'll probably have to go in about 10 seconds. It's like can't be a stand-up comedian. I could never last more than five seconds without having anyway,

Herby Kay: Where was that? So what I'm saying is we don't have to really f*** with it and in Scandinavia, they pay for their welfare state. So here in America, for example, the bottom half of wage earners in this country pays zero income tax at all. when they say we're taxpayers that's**. No, they're not if you're in the lower 50% you pay zero tax. it's candidate everybody pays tax and the tax rate begins at 56% No deductions 56% why do people agree to pay 56% of their income right off the top and every level to taxes and on top of that they have a 25% value added tax, which is basically a sales tax. So everything they buy cost 25% more than everything you buy and why do they accept that because they're getting value as they have an excellent Healthcare System. We have an excellent retirement system. They have excellent educational system. They have excellent infrastructure. They're willing to pay for all of that out of their pockets currently because they're getting value for their money, but American welfare.

Herby Kay: And have no concept of value for money and that's why it all has to be developed to the states and let them redesign plans and they'll work and Life Will Go On and that will help restore the nuclear family. let's move on to how are we going to pay for a lot of the stuff? I'm about to propose. And so I want to move on to the drug war and I advocate the absolute and of the drug war that all drugs of all types should be not decriminalized legal now again, I'm going to go over this fast in the white paper when I was in prison I saw I got to know that the cartel guys really really well and I learned all about the drug. I'm glad you're back now. I'm not just talking to a chair. I feel.

Joshua Berglan: I heard every bit of it. I'm glad we segue to this subject. I love this one.

Herby Kay: Okay, so when I was in prison Chris breaks down. Yeah, but the inmate separate themselves racially and it has nothing to do with the administration. So the white guys are the woods which truck repair Woods the black guys are the Kinfolk the Americans are the Chicanos the foreign National Latinos are the Pisa means country in Spanish, by way, that's where that comes from. And then the Native American or the Chiefs and Asians and stuff don't have any groups because there's too few of them choose as well too. So

Herby Kay: When you get the group that brings in the dread and other use the example of the Kingman prison yard that I was in what it was one of the prisons that I was in Kingman prison. I got to know the cartel guys really well so I can tell you for a fact they were doing about three and a half million dollars a year in drug sales inside the prison and that wasn't coming in up someone's ass or vagina when they came in for visitation in the movies. Where that was coming in was from corrupt Corrections Officers now in order to get now, they weren't all corrupt. So obviously they too occasionally got randomly screened when they would walk into the prison. So how they got around that was gross. So the cartel would fly a drone into the corner of the art when the prison was locked down and then one of the corrupt guards would pick it up and take it to the prices who would then distributed among the other races and then there was a barter system that you could transfer.

Herby Kay: I can get lost in the ways of this but there's a way to pay cash for your drugs. Even though there is no Cash in prison using barter and converting it in accounts and sending it to your family all kinds of s*. It's very intricate, but it got done. three and a half million dollars a year on a prison yard with 1800 people now if you can't control drugs in a prison yard

Herby Kay: With Round the Clock security slow circuit cameras everywhere, except the bathroom in the shower 24/7. Okay, how do you think you're going to stop drugs need us? we have to stop turning a health problem into a criminal problem, which is what the drug drugs don't cost crime drug laws cost from and they cost crime because they make the drugs too* expensive. So you need the example apparel because that's the drug most of us understand what it is. So I'll use it because it's simple and even a boomer knows but heroin is I'm not gonna get into some of the more that's the Terrace even though ice understand them. I even know how to make that you want to know the truth. I mean, I know that sounds crazy, but I learned how to make nothing prison. I could be breaking bad when I got up and red eye and phosphorus and student after dinner the three ingredients by the way, but anyway why anyone would put that their body,** idea but here's what it comes down to by the way for we have to get out of the business of making people's weaknesses a crime.

Herby Kay: The people that first of all we have to grow up and understand that only about 10% of the population has an addictive personality 90% of us can use anything we want occasionally and not get addicted to it including heroin and cocaine and everything else. No one ever talks about it, but we all joke about we all went through college or those of us that did or went through high school or whatever. I use LSD. I took play Lose. I did cocaine I still smoke weed. Okay. not occasionally a smoke every f* day. Be honest, I live in a state where it's legal. I'm not high now, but I will be and I enjoy myself the point is. What I want to prison I didn't smoke weed for five years didn't bought it. It's not an addictive really, it's most people could use anything and not if heroin were legal if you ask me what I try. Yeah. I try.

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Herby Kay: Absolutely, because I would never get addicted. I wouldn't ejected. There's all kinds of ways to use heroin. I would smoke it but just like we did for centuries and opium dense. this is anything new. Okay, why it hurt was taken a lot for his wife was for a headaches. That's just opening in a bottle. it was named Coca Cola because it was full of cocaine guys. I mean It was something that was never a problem into a problem and created the same exact thing. We had prohibition on steroids and in doing so we disrupted all of Latin America who is disrupted with all this corruption because of our drug habit if drugs were Mexico South and suddenly goes stable and Corruption wouldn't be an issue because the cartels would be out of business because the independent producer could produce much cheaper because for example heroin

Herby Kay: Doesn't have a packable formula. It's been around since the dawn of time. There is an argument to be made anthropologically that the earliest civilizations were created to farm psychedelics and hops and barley to make beer. That's the whole reason that mankind even developed agriculture was to get high and drunk. That's it.

Joshua Berglan: Yeah.

Herby Kay: Okay, when there is a strong case to be made that when Moses saw the burning bush and got the Ten Commandments. He was tripping because if that was an occasion voice, which is the dominant tree and that part of the desert or bush when you like those on fire the smoke is a loose on a genic and they knew that they had figured that out for a long time. You can get High breathing in the fumes from a burning in case of wood. So there's a lot of truth of this stuff, it all gets mixed up but here's what it comes down to.

Herby Kay: Most of us drugs are legal are not going to become at us. The reason that hardcore addicts become addicts because their goal in life is not longevity. It is to get through the misery that they view each day of their life and we're not going to fix the uncountable reasons why people are in deeply unpped. and that'll get me to homelessness in just one minute. So what I'm saying is okay 80% people in prisoner there for drugs or drug related crime. So in other words 36% are there for possession for sale, I would immediately pardon those people I would expunge their records and let them go back to living their lives and most violent crime is drug related because

Herby Kay: Rugs are an illegal business and an illegal business. You can't go to court to enforce contracts. So if someone drugs at every level or a handshake business, so if you f*** somebody on a deal that you've made they're only recourse is violence, whether it's gang violence or cartel violence when I know again, I know cartel guys first hand and I'm telling you they would prefer not to be killing everybody. this is not like the movies they don't get off on. I'm sure there are a few psychotics out there. I'm not saying that they don't exist I'm saying most of these people are business people entrepreneurs frankly providing a product in the band have to deal with the law and so have to enforce their contracts this way the same way that cattle Barons in the old west strung up wrestlers when there was no chair up and no quartering they didn't have time for that. So they would just take them out to a tree string them up and it's the same f****** principle if we make drugs legal all of that violence goes away all of that that goes away if you've

Herby Kay: been robbed in your life If drugs were legal, there's a nine out of 10 chance. You would have never been lost never. Okay, and so that's number two we got and I could go on and on but again read the white paper on the legalizing drugs. There will free up you've spent way over trillion dollars on the drug war and come to nothing. all that Capital can be used for the next thing. I'm going to talk about which is how do we get rid of homelessness and I'm moving through this fast. But again, it's all on the website. so

Herby Kay: The homeless population I know a lot about because we use our state prisons, which is what I was in as homeless shelters. that's what the police do with a lot of these homeless they round them up on b** charges from vagrancy the public exposure to breaking entering because they were too drunk to know where the f*** they were by the way the vast majority of Street people are alcoholics more than any other drugs. There are a few junkies, because alcohol is so cheap and accessible because they don't care what they drink whether it's Sterno or MD 2020. They just don't give a s*** or Malt Liquor. I know it just sounds vile,…

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Joshua Berglan: So bad,…

Herby Kay: but that's…

Joshua Berglan: August so awful.

Herby Kay: 

Herby Kay: why they still the idea of chucking down a bottle of Andy It's Green Springs is vile to me, but these guys like it right they're not looking for Chateau the feet, so the bottom line is they're mostly alcoholics. They fall into two categories The Crazies that's about half of them just s*** crazy on mostly diagnosed but untreated schizophrenics and the other half are just hardcore alcoholics now on the schizoph and They're all hardcore alcoholics the schizophrenics choose alcohol in other drugs, but mostly alcohol is self-medicate because it makes them feel better than the anti-psychotic drugs which get them to all feel so when you take things like, what's got starts with an L?

Herby Kay: Make lithium when lithium works, but it makes you feel like the zombie evidently I've never taken lithium, but that's what I'm told by these first hand by these people. So rather than feel like a zombie all day long. They would prefer to drink themselves into Oblivion at least feel something. Okay,

Herby Kay: What we do for those people that are undiagnosed mentally ill and never going to get better. Let's also right now the state of psychiatric medicine is we don't really cure anybody. So let's just accept the Psychiatry controls and doesn't cure by the way. I have my own scars. I've seen psychologists and psychiatrists in my life. I'm not pointing a finger and it's helped me a lot but my scars are still there. I've just learned to deal with and that's the different but they're not sure we don't cure people of their mental scars. That just isn't possible and someone is a out of control schizophrenic. Here's what we do we take some of that money that we're pissing away on the drug war and we build really nice sanitarians all over the country and we properly staff them with professionals who know what they're doing and we give these people a quiet say place and if they want to drink while they're in there for the rest of their lives Lenin stop trying to save the unstable.

Herby Kay: They're not trying to live to be 90 guys. They're just trying to get through the crazy** Maelstrom of their mind that day if they want that dicotic drugs obviously give it to them if they want treatment obviously and we can pay for all of that with the money. We're not pissed away on the drug war, but for the majority leave give them a quiet room and a bottle of whatever they like and let them go to it free of charge that keeps them off the streets better for them. It's better for everybody else. Is it? Perfect? No, but the enemy of good is perfect. It's so much better than what we do rather than leave them on the street to s* on the sidewalks terrorize the locals and

Herby Kay: themselves end up victims all kinds of crazy violence and s***. Let's take some of this blood money and give him a nice quiet place to get drunk basic now on the other hand. Let's talk about the ones that are not mentally ill but are screening alcoholics anatomics. Again, they have the same motivation. They may not be schizophrenic but their lives you hear the stories of what some of these people have been raised from You just can't appreciate what a Horror Story some of these people have lived through and still live through and they're not going to get better. These scars are unfixable children when your parents you'll understand this if you are children are the receptacles of every unresolved issue. They were raised with so if they're raised in a crazy place every crazy piece of s***, it's downloaded.

Herby Kay: To them and destroys their life and it's not going to get better. So here's what we do. Okay, I mean in one again, I know it's gonna be comments mobile and Uncle I heard that but okay. I'll address that. Here we go. Even the acceptance.

Herby Kay: Outside of every city and town in America. There is our places that no one wants to live industrial areas. Okay, just are where the factors are all that s** near the airport is by a big track of land every city does and on that big track of land. They put tiny houses those little basically studio apartments that look like houses and we just put as many as necessary for that City's homeless population and the police they…

Joshua Berglan: ever

Herby Kay: what we don't even have to use police. We can have special homeless transport shots and they basically go out with social workers. They find these homeless people and they say come with us you're not arrested. This is not a jail. You're not gonna get a criminal charge come with us. We're gonna give you the keys to your own tiny house. You're gonna have your own space your own kitchen your own plate to be private a lock on the door to keep you safe. When you sleep and all the booze or drugs you want all you got to do and you can live here the rest of your life rent free.

Herby Kay: You don't have to pay for anything. we'll have a clinic on the site so that if they get sick, there's someone to take care of them. We have Drug Treatment available for those that want it if they wanted great. That's the only way you recover from addiction is because you want to all the rest of it is all b*******. And if you don't get to the place, that's what they call the bottom. That means you've got the place where you very few really want to they like their lifestyle. But the ones that do we make it available to them. And of course, we have medical professionals on site for the inevitable overdoses, and some people are going to die. In fact, they're all going to die eventually, but let them live out there in life not in prison not treated like animals, but leave them to their own devices.

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Herby Kay: If they're over 18, and they're in this position. Stop trying to live or treat unlivable things. You just can't understand. Let's help all the other people by getting them out of their neighborhoods and…

Joshua Berglan: true

Herby Kay: let's help them by giving them their neighborhood and here's also what I learned in prison. Told us people when they have a safe place or very clean. I know that's hard to believe I know in the streets. They should on the streets are because they have no choice, but when they're in prison, But in fact the guy I paid a peanut butter, I paid him six yards of peanut butter a month. They cost the bucket jar and he cleaned my house. That's what they call where you live and they clean my laundry and the guy was amazing his homeless guy. He was awesome didn't have a tooth in his head. absolutely screaming alcoholic drink Hooch imprison all the time, but holy reliable showed up did the cleaning young love them great guy, but it's

Herby Kay: but he would have been s*** on the street. he could only function in prison. I'm saying these guys aren't felons. They're sad and pathetic. Let's start treating them like their felons, but stop treating them also, like their infants. They're adults. They know what they need give it to them. That's all I'm saying. Okay we solve homelessness. The only thing I've left out now to discuss is what do we do about all those kids that are already out there that are already pretty f***** up but maybe still savable and they're coming out of prison now.

Herby Kay: completely unprepared with absolutely no money. And once every felony charge is Life, just understand that no matter whether it's one year or five years or 10 years. Once you have a felony it's a life sentence and I know this from personal experience, once you have a felony conviction the doors closed to almost everything now someone like me who I say honestly, but I know is way above average and intelligence and it played the game successfully for a long long time.

Herby Kay: That could overcome but let's also be honest and say 999 out of 1000 people don't have those tools. Plus they were raised in families that gave them understanding of anything at all. They have no chance. They're gonna do life on the installment plan. They're going to get out. They're gonna rested come back and serve get out get rearrested come back in sir until if they live in some states where they get to the, three strikes and you're out. That's okay with them. That doesn't even scare them. Because Prison is the retirement plan. They get free medical. They get free dental. They get their foot. This is not doing anybody prison is an industry not a rehabilitation. Okay. So…

Joshua Berglan: right

Herby Kay: what I propose is the prison reform which again you can read about this in the white paper, but I pattern it on a combination of the Norwegian prison system and danish prison system, which is heavily on Rehabilitation. Basically what goes on in prison down I can again tell you first-hand experiences. It doesn't matter how good you are or how hard you try to comply if two Knuckleheads on the art get into a fight the whole yard gets punched and that's backwards and insane. Okay, there should be incentive system in prison. So that the more you comply the more privileges you earn so you learn what it is to earn things that you've never learned before in your life and you have a sense of the accomplishment as you achieve different levels. Okay? That's number one. Number two. We've got a segregate when people come into

Herby Kay: The really bad feeds from the good ones and the way to do that again. I say this in the white paper is with president when inmates come in, I personally did I show you Here's my prisoner if you like it. gee with it started I never hit my jewishness. By the way, the white guys hated me because they were all Aryan Brothers, but I wrote black and so I got along great with them anyway.

Joshua Berglan: right

Herby Kay: What God damn Nazi m***** by the way, you've never seen anything funnier than they ask the True Religion, which this you ever heard of that? That's the true. forward worshipers they're in prison. I swear to God all these Aryan Brothers worship Thor and the religions called author. Asatr you look it You'll see I'm not making the s** up beware a little hammers around their neck. Crazy as f* thing. Okay back on track. Those guys have to be gotten out of the mix those guys the Aryan brothers and the worst gangsters and the guys that are incorrigible and unfixable have to be separated from the majority of the Christian population that are just sheep. And if you can get those dangerous wolves out of the way, you can remake some of these sheep and the normal people. So how do you do that is prisoning Gang Inc is easily identifiable by people who know There's a difference between your girlfriend's name on your forearm or the story David and

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Herby Kay: 88 on a neck which stand is the eight letter of the alphabet which is H. So that's code for heild Hitler on the neck of you ever see 88 on the neck of a white guy. That's an Aryan grub. Okay, that's Heil Hitler. or one eight, which is a age eight of them. That's just I'm giving you a few examples or the SS things or the Nazi war eagle or they're black equipments to this. There are Chicano equivalents there's all kinds of gang tasks for the Bloods the Crips whatever gang they're in when they come to prison. They should be given a choice but on Entry. The state will remove your tax free of charge or we're going to send you to a segregated yard.

Herby Kay: Okay, where you can sit there and wallow with the rest of your free now hardcore gangsters will never agree to have their intake enough people self-segregate. Okay, we don't have to do a** thing. but say they're coming off or you can go here. They'll go there every time they consider that a badge of honor believe but all the other guys who have their girlfriends names or their zip codes or whatever silly*. They have tattooed on themselves. Don't let it get taken off. take it up. They're sick of it already. They already realized they made a horrible mistake. That's got well.

Joshua Berglan: Yeah, right.

Herby Kay: When all four of my children having but in my youngest son Julian is an artist. So he has got to sleep and his wife and very cool guy. I look Adora, but Jillian will tell you the best piece of advice. I ever gave him was and I gave us all the kids. If you want to have ink, that's fine. Here's what you do. Draw a picture of whatever it is that you want to have put on your body and take it to your mirror where you shave or prepare yourself and look at it for a year. And if a year later, you still like it. Go ahead. because Yeah.

Joshua Berglan: I wish somebody would have given me that advice..

Herby Kay: .

Herby Kay: That's just I'm gonna guess they just make sure that so we've segregated out the gangsters and the really bad guys from the guys that are malleable those guys go through basic training. We basically get retired drill instructors. And from the Army Navy Air Force Marine Corps, we bring them in and we put these kids through weapons obviously, but everything else the marching the book so they learn Teamworks. They learn that to be a good order Giver. You have to be a good order taker. So they learn all the lessons of father would have thought boundaries kind of clean up after themselves personal responsibility. So on and so forth and Once they graduate from that then they go to work in productive industries from the outside. It's all done through private and that's done today, by the way, but the difference is now the inmates get 50 cents an hour and the state keeps all the rest. Okay. I'm saying pay the inmates the whole thing and then from it, so let's say that

Herby Kay: The inmate the job pays the minimum wage, which let's just say for the site sake of argument in your state is 10 dollars. Now, I'm just picking that out of the year because it's around number. then you can charge them 30% of that 10 dollars three dollars to pay for their rent and overhead to help reimburse some of the costs their owncarceration, but now they understand about what we're starting to teach them budgeting because on the outside the third of your budget goes To where you live typically so we're teaching them on this right? These are lessons that they should have learned at all, but they did. Then out of that ten dollars. We can take 10% of that to restitution to us many baby mamas as they have so the baby mama start getting some money when they were getting nothing at all. Okay, and they're never have wives. They're always baby moms. and then the rest gets put into an account for them at interest until they get out so when they're released are we running out of time? Okay.

Herby Kay: So let me wrap it up because obviously I could go on and on and on I apologize because I can never shut up.

Joshua Berglan: Yeah, and I think it's very very interesting. I'm just 40 minutes over so I like

Herby Kay: So let's go to the 1964 plan.org. They're two ways that you can help. The first way is obviously donate money. We don't care how much five dollars ten dollars whatever makes you happy again. I'm aware of how much we're racing but we would obviously look and what that goes to pay for is putting me on the road. I'm going to go out and I'm gonna start speaking at colleges and Civic groups and all around the country and believe me. You can just have to take this my word. I'm a great public speaker and I'm gonna go out and spread the word and the message where it goes the second way you can help this is volunteer because obviously we would like to set up Authority and organize movements so that when the end comes and it's imminent my friends and there's a connection to my sub stack and in my podcast and things on the website. So feel free to read all the stuff I've written you'll get a good idea of…

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Joshua Berglan: okay.

Herby Kay: where I'm coming from. In fact, I'm going to write a new substack today after we're done and I don't know if you've read any myself stack, but I Believe me really Lay It Up.

Joshua Berglan: You do a great job. I mean the website in itself is incredible. I really

Joshua Berglan: Statement I love what you're talking about. I think that you have some very great ideas. I'm a fan of you. I really am. I don't want to be rude by going even a Christmas when it's over…

Herby Kay: We'll do it again. We'll do it again.

Joshua Berglan: but Yeah,…

Herby Kay: We'll do it again. I love him there.

Joshua Berglan: I love to have you again. This is fascinating.

Herby Kay: this is what I'm doing. I'm committed to it. Yeah, God Bless America. I'm just trying to save our country and our culture and One's Gonna Do That by running for office folks. We're gonna have to do it yourself. We're gonna have to force the political class to do the right thing rather than wait for them to do it because if we wait we're all going to be gone. that

Joshua Berglan: Amen to that by. God bless you Thank you so much for being here.

Herby Kay: Thank you for having me and I really appreciate in Joshua. Let's do this again. Seriously, I have nothing…

Joshua Berglan: No, no,…

Herby Kay: but a great time with you,…

Joshua Berglan: we will do it again.

Herby Kay: Peace out.

Herby Kay: Have a great day.

Joshua Berglan: If you brother,…

Joshua Berglan: thank you.

Joshua Berglan: Bye.

Joshua Berglan: Wow, yeah that went way over but he's in. I really like what he's saying.

Joshua Berglan: if you could learn how to speak and sound bites. they would probably let him on cable news. but I don't think that his information is the kind that does well with sound bites. In fact, I would bet if you sound bite at what he talked about.

Joshua Berglan: He probably would need private security 24 hours a day. Check them out 1964 plan Herby Kay. Thank you for being here. Everyone. God bless. Bye.

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