🌟 Discover the Profound Power of Human Connection! 🌟

Welcome to a deeply moving and inspirational video conversation, where Joshua engages in a heartfelt dialogue with Jennifer Cobb, a former NFL cheerleader and passionate advocate for the Parkinson's community. In this compelling discussion, Jennifer, the founder of Team Gateway To A Cure, opens her heart, sharing her personal journey and shedding light on the challenges she has faced along the way.

Together, they delve into Jennifer's extensive involvement with the Michael J Fox Foundation, a leading organization dedicated to Parkinson's research and support. Explore her impactful mission to inspire and uplift others as she emphasizes the importance of creating a lasting legacy and the indispensable role played by caregivers in the lives of individuals battling Parkinson's disease.

Jennifer's unique perspective, shaped by her experience as an NFL cheerleader, adds a compelling dimension to the conversation. She eloquently describes how the discipline, teamwork, and resilience she acquired on the cheerleading squad continue to influence her approach to life and advocacy.

In this video, you'll gain profound insights into the indispensable work of hospices, offering invaluable support and education for caregivers. Jennifer and Joshua delve into the crucial resources and compassionate care provided by these facilities, alleviating the burden for both patients and their caregivers.

🔍 Timestamps:

0:00 Introduction

2:12 Reconnecting after Time Apart

8:57 Legacy and Inspiration

15:00 Leaving a Positive Impact

23:08 The Importance of Community and Connections

30:05 Cheerleading and Its Profound Impact

38:40 Shifting Focus to Caregiver Education

45:31 The Vital Role of Hospices and Their Services

49:41 Fostering Conversations and Raising Awareness



Transcript

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Jennifer Cobb: so excited to see your just hands themselves from head to toe, all everything about Joshua We have not connected since probably 2018 to that, prior to Covid. And it's like, we all migrated into our own little worlds, I think you and I both have lived, what two or three, maybe four lives since then. and to finally, this is so amazing. thank you, from the bottom of my heart for having I'm getting to get emotional here like I have watched you.

Jennifer Cobb: go from zero to a thousand million in literally the last number of years, and I don't think you get told enough, what an honor but how awesome. To be able to see that and inspire me, I don't know if people say that enough to you, you are truly and an iconic inspiration, epic epic. And hopefully, I am in that way to my children. they see me in a different light outside of being a mom in my legacy outside, the home, the charitable work. I do the service, I do, from the documentary movies to the Children book. I've just finished writing to just all of the things of Jennifer.

Jennifer Cobb: I see that in you and it's an inspiration. It really truly is epic. So thank you for having me on the show.

Joshua Berglan: What you'll see my intro later. And I think I told you I did four right before because it almost sounded like I was in love with you and it made in it and then I was gushing because I am so inspired by you like all that you do and what you were doing. I mean, when I was following you on Facebook and we first met and then I had that opportunity to be a part of your event but then I was traveling and couldn't do it but watching your journey and seeing all that you've done and then all that you do and all that you keep doing, that's inspiring for people like me because I want to change the world for all the bad I did. I have five times the energy for good.

Joshua Berglan: and in it but when you make those shifts in life, it takes a while. To figure things out to fully heal to fully get on your feet because there's still ups and downs and everything. There's five steps forward, and then 10 steps back sometimes. But then getting up and still going and moving forward and in creating something and maybe it doesn't take off the way that I want. So it's like, okay, we create again, we don't give up. but when I see someone, like yourself and all that you've done and that with cheerleading and the NFL and the documentaries, and the books, and the foundations, and the charity work like that, I see that. And it inspires me and it makes me want to do more and it makes me want To do not just do more but to do better. And because you've been a positive influence on me, from a distance because we've never actually met in person.

Jennifer Cobb: No, we haven't and thank goodness for technology.

Joshua Berglan: So this is big deal to me.

Jennifer Cobb: Yeah, I mean we wouldn't be on talking right now if it wasn't for the technology and it's interesting. We oftentimes put so much High expectation honor, ours personally, which is great.

Joshua Berglan: Yeah.

Jennifer Cobb: I love That about you. But we also have to look at our expectations say, What are we taking from these expectations How real are they and what do you want to accomplish from these expectations? The millennial and the generation of my children. They have such high expectations of instant gratification everything now I mean Instagram.

Jennifer Cobb: Snapchat, if I don't get this right away, instantly that I'm not valued. And that all goes to the common denominator of dopamine in our brain. dopamine is what drives behavior, and behavior drives our choices and our choices and behavior. Dictate our personalities. And so all of us living in that instant gratifying world, especially at the younger age, teens 20s and 30s. They still have what now 20 more lives ahead of them.

Joshua Berglan: Yeah.

Jennifer Cobb: So Our expectations are even in our older years and shame on them really because when you really look at human nature, human ability, personally, it's almost kind of a little arrogant. How dare you think that much of yourself at 1819 that you have to have this?

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Jennifer Cobb: Done this accomplished, when you haven't even given yourself, enough credit, honestly, you literally just walked across the stage. Got a diploma and now, you're already down on yourself because you haven't lived four or five lives. you really need to look at your own accountability and say, Okay, what do I truly want to accomplish and take them in many steps? And for me, That's kind of Joshua. What I have done through the course of my life, but I haven't really got into taking those little mini steps along the way until my children were at the age where they were a little bit more. So self-sufficient,

Joshua Berglan: Yeah.

Jennifer Cobb: hanging on my leg and needed me to, either safety blanket, Mommy. So a lot of this that you have saw through the years has really Taking off in my later, 30s. I'm getting my age out there, and I'm truly inspired by myself. And I most bet that feeds for me, that I get fed that by seeing how inspires my children and at the end of the day, that's really what matters.

Joshua Berglan: Yeah, for when I first started my journey, it was about what I could accomplish. but, Now, it's what I can do with my family. and that for me has become

Joshua Berglan: It's changed all of my motivations. as far as the global goals and the global mission is the same But with that,…

Jennifer Cobb: Right.

Joshua Berglan: there's a bit of a rock star aspect to it because it is traveling, it is being on stage but it's also working in these communities. But I've always been inspired. I mean, I'm surrounded by different books of rock stars that have done world tours and that's a big goal of mine for what I want to do with, the worlds, mayor experience, and how we serve in the communities. But again there's a rock star element to it because it's on the road, it's traveling. It's living out of a suitcase and I've been very blessed to find a family that is like we want to do this too, and…

Jennifer Cobb: We're going up. Yeah.

Joshua Berglan: and it's just such a blessing. so,

Joshua Berglan: I say that my priorities changed. It's not so much that they changed, it's just that it's no longer about me. it's about us and that feels good and at the same time having two amazing daughters that see what I do. They think it's super interesting, they want to be a part of it. They ask questions. they love to see the merch as they call it. They like to see what I'm building behind the scenes And it's like what a dream and I would have never thought that any of that was possible or that it would be such a cool feeling to want to impress kids, especially my own. I never thought about those things but now it's

Jennifer Cobb: Right.

Joshua Berglan: That's kind of who I do it for is then no one else. I mean, I want to help other people but my intentions are for them.

Jennifer Cobb: Right. Yep.

Joshua Berglan: So I relate to that.

Jennifer Cobb: Yep. Yeah, yeah. I'm sure if not My father passed away in January.

Joshua Berglan: I'm sorry.

Jennifer Cobb: I had made up, post about it of Parkinson.

Joshua Berglan: I haven't been on Facebook in a…

Joshua Berglan: so I don't know. Yeah, so I didn't know.

Jennifer Cobb: yeah, so he met with her about 23 years and…

Jennifer Cobb: one of the things I recognized with death From his passing is. What he has left on this life journey, this earth. For the people, he affected the relationships that he had. During his life here on earth. And how that's still inspiring. So, when I speak of legacy. I truly want my legacy for my children and those that I have Met along the way. To remember.

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Jennifer Cobb: What I have done and what I inspired them to become or do look, you and I are just like everyone else day. We all have the same common desire in our lives is so affect other people in a positive way. Sometime along the way. we take some bad turns, I always tell my children. We take a bag, exit, get back on the road and get between the lines. And I've taken many bad as exits before, and that's okay, because I wouldn't be where I am today. If it wasn't for those bad as Ex, but what I do have is a really good formula. What is Jennifer's formula? I have really good people around me that have my blind spots.

Jennifer Cobb: And they say, Jen you're not yourself what's going on or haven't heard from you or whatever it is they've got me. And so with my children, where they're at in their lives, I'm their blind spot. I've got their blind spots and I call them on it. I always treat my children they're two years older than they are and they're not little kids anymore, they're not their mommy, I'm their mother, their mentor,…

Joshua Berglan: Yeah, it does change. Yeah.

Jennifer Cobb: and so yeah, I treat them as that and I have good adult conversations with them and I want them to come to me and say Hey Mom I'm having a tough time with this decision. Okay talk to me let's talk it through and never give them what I would do. I would always just talk it through and say Okay executive function skills is so incredibly important at that age because when you master or try to perfect it or do well at executive function, it's to help pay dividends later on in life when those

Jennifer Cobb: Situations come up and your mommy or daddy is not there to help you go through it. And so my father's passing has really allowed me to look back and to see all of the things and remember all the things that he has caught me through my life and now I get to pass that on to my children, but also make a legacy for myself individually personally. So,

Joshua Berglan: I want to. Yeah, legacy has become something that has been a driving force ever since my father died. But for a different reason. And I don't want to speak poorly of my father because I forget forgiven him and I love him. And now I'm grateful for all the stuff that I hated and experienced, I'll just leave it at that. but, His funeral left, an impact on me and be the funeral story is for another time because I showed up in a bad way, I showed up late and I was still very strong out and messed up at that time. but, One of the things that really bothered me. Was that he kind of staged the funeral? To make it feel like he left the legacy.

Joshua Berglan: in the legacy was like,

Jennifer Cobb: 

Joshua Berglan: Everyone talked good and it was a lot of misrepresentation of what the truth was. and…

Jennifer Cobb: 

Joshua Berglan: I remember sitting with him at lunch and he said, How will you remember? This is right before he died, how will you remember me? And he just had full-blown brain radiation from it. He died from melanoma but it got all in his brain And I didn't have the heart to tell him the truth and I don't know what the point would have been at that time. But that question. Carried over into the way. The funeral was even with the preacher was saying because that he was friends with the preacher. and I'm sitting there and I was effed up out of my mind but I remember hearing what was being said and I was just Disgusted. But the thought came to me.

Joshua Berglan: What will your legacy be? and at that time,…

Jennifer Cobb: Yeah.

Joshua Berglan: my legacy would have been A waste of gifts, a waste of talent. Angry never. I like it was all the things that I didn't want. that accelerated my drug use and everything else until I finally hit the wall, but when I made my life change, The legacy came back to the front of my mind. And the determination to reverse all of that bad became a very big driving force and so sometimes The desire to leave a legacy my ego can get in the way of that sometimes because then that's a hard thing to manage for me. But at the same time, it's what helps me make the next right decision.

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Joshua Berglan: most of the time, because the human being But it is and…

Jennifer Cobb: Yeah.

Joshua Berglan: I have other children that are not really involved in my life right now. but the let part of leaving that legacy,…

Jennifer Cobb: here nice

Joshua Berglan: Is that hopefully they will see the turnaround and want to be involved in my life. That's the other part of it. So my legacy is not just redemption and making right of my wrongs but it's also leaving something that will benefit and bless future generations. That's the other part.

Jennifer Cobb: right

Joshua Berglan: What is your Legacy that you want to live, leave?

Jennifer Cobb: That's a loaded question. Really? Very loaded.

Joshua Berglan: Unload it.

Jennifer Cobb: The number one there's a word that comes to my mind and I sent you an article that the Healthy Planet magazine had done on me good people doing good things. There's so much evil in the world. and if I Can do good.

Joshua Berglan: 

Jennifer Cobb: And I can Inspire others just by my presence. but for me, that's service right there and serving others is Something that it's just my personality Joshua. I just really enjoy people and I can spend. Days. and years looking back at the things, better exits I've taken and Choices. I did the best I could at the time but I'm actually. Glad that I went through all of the things that I went through, in my life, to get me to where I'm at today. So that I can teach my children that they often kids look at parents.

Jennifer Cobb: As this superhero, you can never have a tear you could ever fail. You got to do it. all perfect. at the end of the year, there's Father, the Year award ceremony. you're definitely getting that trophy right? And there's an end of the year Mom,…

Joshua Berglan: Okay.

Jennifer Cobb: ceremony Mother of the Year. I'm getting the trophy. Damn it Bobby, right? I deserve it.

Jennifer Cobb: To see me I want my children to see the other days, Zachary did something, the door slammed and he didn't hold it for me. And I said, Wow, that was not very nice. you thought of yourself. First before your mom like That made me that hurt my feelings, act like they need feedback to the world or…

Joshua Berglan: Yeah.

Jennifer Cobb: I miss It's sad that I haven't had any time with you. I'm selfish that, I know my kids are going to college and they have their own lives, but my love bucket is empty and I need a little bit more of my daughter at the time. I need some love time with my daughter. Whether it's, just going for a walk or having a meal or talking on the phone, whatever it doesn't have to be complicated, but they need to know. And hear.

Jennifer Cobb: That I have feelings too, and that's okay. Because, …

Joshua Berglan: Yeah.

Jennifer Cobb: they need to know that I'm not super human. I'm a mom that loves you more than anything. But you also have to understand that there's compassion and, understanding that you may look at me as a super mom that carries on the cape and does it all. But there's also aside to me that I get my feelings hurt and I need to have this time or selfish time, whatever it is to spend with my children. So my aunt, the answer to the question, what my legacy would be summing it all up as service, serving others to the capacity of imitation is a great form of flattery. ting, whether it's in being inspired, whether it's, visually seeing what

Jennifer Cobb: What I may do and maybe it sparks an idea and I want to do something similar, that's gonna inspire me to do something else. whatever that service is, that's what I want to leave as my legacy on this earth.

Joshua Berglan: Here, did you?

Jennifer Cobb: When it's time for me to go.

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Joshua Berglan: And so both of my parents were very generous. they were givers and I remember my mom going out of her way when I was young to bring food or water or money to people in need. I remember, taking Christmas gifts to strange homes. that they didn't have gifts. That would left such a huge impression on me. So I don't know if it was hardwired in my DNA or or the influence that I had of seeing. My family fight for those who couldn't fight for themselves or provide for themselves that generosity but that rubbed off on me. And had a huge impact and it is inspired me. So that's how I want to live my life, I never

Joshua Berglan: Being in business I like to see it more of us as a service and I'm serving, and I'm helping not trying to trick you into buying something. I have zero interest and I'm not even attracted to sales people and that sense, because I would just rather give. I,…

Jennifer Cobb: All right. Yeah.

Joshua Berglan: I wish that I was born into a world where all I could do is just give I didn't have to ask for anything or have to hope for money and return. because it feels so much better to serve and give and when you have something that can benefit someone else, It feels like the greatest blessing of the world, to be able to give it to him.

Jennifer Cobb: And when you do that, we're all hardwired exactly the same. The word gratitude comes to mind. And the reason gratitude comes to mind is…

Joshua Berglan: Yeah.

Jennifer Cobb: because when you do walk that little old lady across the street and help her. So she doesn't get hit by the car, you have a sense of feeling of gratitude and we All don't do it enough at the end of our day recap. What we truly are grateful for or what we have done through the day that we are grateful for because, like you said, earlier, our ego gets in the way we think. So much of ourselves that we can't even take one moment before we close your eyes and shut out the world for a night's sleep, to look back at our day and see what we truly did. That we are truly personally. Granted grateful for

Jennifer Cobb: And it could be the littlest things and how awesome are you as an individual to go back and look through your day and say for me, good for you. Absolutely. Instead of breaking yourself down that you didn't do this enough of that or didn't get this done. I mean, You again, going through that superhuman mentality and having a high expectations which are awesome. High expectations are great but you also have to be realistic

Joshua Berglan: Yeah, and that's tough especially when you have big goals and big dreams but I've had to fall in love with the process or I would have offered myself a long time ago because I'm not where I want to be. I mean,…

Jennifer Cobb: No, but looking back. Yeah.

Joshua Berglan: I've been accomplished all these things but I think about the film festivals and the book and that hit best seller in four countries But that doesn't mean anything to me.

Joshua Berglan: What I want? Youth media literacy centers all over the world. And I've got all the city's lined up and who I want to partner with to help bring this why. and I know deep down in my heart. Why all of this is important and I have no idea how I'm going to accomplish this goal…

Jennifer Cobb: Good for…

Joshua Berglan: but it is like burning inside my heart and soul and has for the last eight years. because I didn't,…

Jennifer Cobb: That's awesome.

Joshua Berglan: I never knew how I was gonna serve and all of that. But it became very clear eight years ago, what the mission was and it seemed impossible and completely unlikely. But if I look back at the eight years,

Joshua Berglan: The whole time I've been moving forward while failing miserably. And it's failing miserably in my brain because I'm not accomplishing my goals,…

Jennifer Cobb: yes.

Joshua Berglan: but the progress is definitely there. And that's so exciting.

Jennifer Cobb: And it is that way and what happens is we don't allow ourselves enough time to Just stop. Maybe take an exit and just stop. And allow yourself to really listen to what you truly want. You can't hear that voice. If you're busy all the time. you've got to stop and just allow yourself that time to really evaluate and there's a thing. it's quality over quantity, you can stay is busy all day and think that you're getting all this busy nonsense done, and still, at the end of the day, not be grateful because you didn't accomplish anything or at least you don't feel like you have or you can slow down work less, and smarter and really truly listen.

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Jennifer Cobb: To that inner voice. You are incredibly smart, man, exactly how to get there. If you slow down just enough to listen, look at who you are and who the people are in your circle and delegate or reach out to the network of people that are smarter than you, and whatever category it is and use those resources, you'll get to the top faster than you can say, Jennifer Cobb. Right.

Joshua Berglan: I don't have a circle at all. I have.

Jennifer Cobb: I'll be your helper.

Joshua Berglan: Hey listen. and one of the intros I talked about how collaborating with you is something as a goal of mine because I love all that you're doing and all that you're up…

Jennifer Cobb: yeah.

Joshua Berglan: But it's really about I know all that you've accomplished but the fact is that you're never settling and you're always growing and you're always doing something new but it's always about other people. And that's inspiring to me. And when I say I don't have a circle,…

Jennifer Cobb: Thank you.

Joshua Berglan: Literally I don't have a circle. I do have friends but I've been kind of like building this thing.

Joshua Berglan: And I don't want other people to be involved in that right now. I'm fortunate for, technology and being kind of a computer geek. and that's helped me not feel so lonely, because it is a very lonely process. But now I'm done.

Jennifer Cobb: Yeah.

Joshua Berglan: And so now I'm ready to start networking again. It's weird.

Jennifer Cobb: Love it.

Joshua Berglan: How God is that God took me out of LA and took me on this journey. And now I'm in a small town in Minnesota that most of the world's never heard of. But I love it in this isolation has helped me build and create and perfect. What I wanted to create. So now it's time to build momentum and start networking and collaborating. So I'm excited to have you here for that but also to hear what you're up to. I want to talk about cheerleading real quick. I was a cheerleader, right?

Jennifer Cobb: Now.

Joshua Berglan: Yeah, so I played college football for a little bit and…

Jennifer Cobb: Okay, I knew that.

Joshua Berglan: got hurt. And I was depressed. I was eating sausage and egg biscuits with mustard and hot sauce and hash browns every day, drinking all the time. And I just was miserable because I couldn't play football anymore. It's all I knew. so, about three weeks into that, I'm in the weight room and the cheerleaders come up to me. And they're like, you want to come to cheerleading practice and I was Get the beep out of here. I'm a cheerleading practice. You crazy? No. do you want to come to a party? Yeah, I want to come to a party. And so after drinking some green grog, which is trash can punch,…

Jennifer Cobb: That.

Joshua Berglan: but it's green and

Joshua Berglan: Partied with the cheerleaders. The next thing I know I'm at cheerleading practice and…

Jennifer Cobb: I love it.

Joshua Berglan: I'm trying toss the hands for the first time and it's miserable, I'm getting kicked in the face and I'm like, I'm not gonna suck at this, I'm gonna get good.

Jennifer Cobb: Nice.

Joshua Berglan: So I ended up getting good and started getting scholarship offers and I got into cheerleading.

Jennifer Cobb: Yeah.

Joshua Berglan: So I got to be around both collegiate cheerleaders and professional cheerleaders. It is such a unique world.

Jennifer Cobb: Nice.

Joshua Berglan: That it's own little entity but the community of cheerleaders is a community of cheerleaders and it's a special fraternity sorority and the type of personalities that get into it are pretty minded. So it doesn't surprise me that you have the energy to do all this stuff. You're passionate about helping people. But what I want to ask you is what from your cheerleading is a professional. It's a cheerleader and, being a cheerleader. What of being a cheerleader, help, prepare you most for what you do today,

Jennifer Cobb: That's great question.

Jennifer Cobb: So, I'm going to tell you a story. How I became an NFL cheerleader. So, I live here in St. Louis. And I was on my way back from work to go home and I heard on the radio that Mrs. Frontieri, the owner of the Rams was hosting open, call auditions. She was bringing the team from LA to Saint Louis. And so, she was hosting, open, call auditions, on this, whatever date. And I thought Professional cheerleading is completely different than college cheerleading. They stunts and Mrs. Frontieri actually was a showgirl Vegas dancer. Most people don't know that. So her girls are very polished and dance and they create this. Entertainment illusion of that kind of showgirl. Look.

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Joshua Berglan: Yeah.

Jennifer Cobb: So I thought, I'm going to walk into this room where there's almost a thousand beautiful women all over, this huge ballroom and I'm like okay

Jennifer Cobb: If I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna look at the best. I'm gonna Leave with a really great friend and have a great story and a good time. I'm going in. So, you know what I did? I found the best answer in the room and I went right next to her and her and I just are still great friends, but I knew that dance was not my strength. I'm a gymnast. I did stunting but dance is completely different category and…

Joshua Berglan: Yeah, for sure.

Jennifer Cobb: it was not a strength of mine. So I thought, if I come out of this with a great friend and have a good for me, right? So I walked over, and I just evaluated, of course, you've got people with pink hair and all kinds of outfits on and songs and stand out. You got media cameras everywhere and I look around. And I saw this girl that had the most amazing kicks and parowets, and all her space perception was on and so, I stood next door and I asked her to Look and watch me critique that heck out of me. So at least I can make it to the next round and she worked, she did. She's like, yeah.

Joshua Berglan: Wow.

Jennifer Cobb: of course, it got down to the top, 75 and the top 75, you go to training camp at the practice, dome, and they see how you interact with other girls. how your group leadership is they put you out in the community, see how you in interact with the public, it gets you on spot with interviews to see how you can come up with, talking to the media. And so at the end of the day, I was one of the Top 40 and I wasn't chose because of my strength and dance. Just as a football player is not chosen as an NFL football player to be an ambassador of this brand this business because he's got the fastest 40 yard. But he catches the most footballs

Jennifer Cobb: He's chosen because of the well-rounded athlete. the man he is on the field as well as off the field. Are they coachable? Are they listed they have good camaraderie when they're exhausted and do they take leadership? are they a leader on and off the field? what sort of things do they have as a personal part of their family life? What kind of things that they're involved in? The community. So the selection process is more. Than just dance. and having the best, part of array, …

Joshua Berglan: Yeah.

Jennifer Cobb: high kick, whatever. And so for me, walking away from cheerleading, I walked away from not a big bank account because we do not get paid. I walked away with the network,…

Joshua Berglan: No.

Jennifer Cobb: a network of Priceless friendships. And to this day, I can call any one of these amazing Friends of Marshall Faulk. I keep calling him on the phone right now. Isaac Bruce Kurt Warner Dick for meal. The cheerleaders all over the country. I have met the original first Dallas, Cowboy cheerleader, she's 92 years old. I met her at the Alumni reunion last year. To me the network that I've walked away from and have opened up this beautiful world that I can lean on, if I need help in, whatever I'm asking for help. That's what I walked away from the cheerleading. That's what I,…

Joshua Berglan: That is a.

Jennifer Cobb: that's what I got.

Joshua Berglan: When I was talking about community, that's kind of what I was referring to. It's a different situation because I was in the college collegiate world, not the NFL, but we got to do a lot with the NFL and got to put on halftime shows with the dolphins And it was such…

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Jennifer Cobb: 

Joshua Berglan: but that community and then anytime I meet a cheerleader to this day it's like I'm 44. I'm almost 30 years removed from that. that's not not 30 years, whatever my math stinks. But however many years it was a lifetime ago I can still do a backflip at 44…

Jennifer Cobb: Yeah. Sure.

Joshua Berglan: though I can still do that…

Jennifer Cobb: Right.

Joshua Berglan: but did I really live that life? that is so strange to me. But to this day I get so geeked out kind of like when I see a wheelchair.

Joshua Berglan: Because I was in that industry for 18 years, working with cerebral palsy and…

Jennifer Cobb: Yeah. Yeah.

Joshua Berglan: als and muscular dystrophy and I get all excited. I don't know what it is. I just get geeked out, same thing with cheerleaders, so it's such a neat world, but that those relationships. What I learned about, community because you're doing a lot of community events and you're getting to be around different people. You get to be around the wealthiest of the wealthy. And sometimes the most impoverished people, and you get to see this Dynamic of good regardless, and it's a neat world.

Jennifer Cobb: yeah, and one big question that I often get asked, when I do shows and interviews, and people ask me this, even at public events, when I see players and other cheerleaders, what do you miss the most?

Joshua Berglan: Mmm.

Jennifer Cobb: They all answered the same. I'm not saying that game. Day isn't fun. Absolutely win or lose. It's still fun to be on the field. They miss locker room talk.

Joshua Berglan: Sure.

Jennifer Cobb: They miss What happens in the locker room,…

Joshua Berglan: 

Jennifer Cobb: all the practical jokes, all the goofing around all the silliness. All of the family bonding that happens.

Joshua Berglan: Sure.

Jennifer Cobb: That's what every cheerleader, you can contested this, you both lives football and cheerleading. It's the locker room. It's the bus rides. That is what we miss.

Joshua Berglan: I Practice was? Yeah, yeah for sure…

Jennifer Cobb: Yeah.

Joshua Berglan: what I'm Gosh, you're right. Are you still working with Michael J? Fox.

Jennifer Cobb: Yes, but more with the Muhammad i, Parkinson's, Foundation, because my Foundation team gateway to a cure. We have shifted from fundraising to education for the caregiver. So what we do is we educate the caregiver, the one that's in the home, caring for their loved one, whether it's Als Parkinson's movie, Body Dementia, Alzheimer's, whatever the brain. anybody that's a caregiver in the home…

Joshua Berglan: My God.

Jennifer Cobb: because the insurance companies are now recognizing caregivers as the second patient, they have depression anxiety and financial hardships. So at the end of their day, when they hit their head on the pillow where they going for their support. And so, if you remember when Muhammad Ali,…

Joshua Berglan: Wow.

Jennifer Cobb: Joshua, when he lit, the torch at the Olympics,…

Joshua Berglan: Yeah.

Jennifer Cobb: he would not have been able to do that. If it wasn't for his caregiver support system, his wife Lonnie Ali, a dear friend of mine, his doctors his children. All of those people that are in his circle that are protecting and helping him as caregivers.

Jennifer Cobb: He would not be able to do those things. So it's so important for us to care and take care of those caregivers in the home and since covid, many people have decided to have their loved ones at home. They choosing that to put them in nursing homes, not that nursing homes aren't a bad option. They are a great option, if that's the situation you're given, but it's a situation gives.

Joshua Berglan: Depends on the nursing home.

Jennifer Cobb: If you want to stay home, you have the four walls of your home with pictures of lifetime of family laughter from here in your family members laughing and it smells of the kitchen of family members cooking and just the comfort of be able to come and go as you please with no restriction. That's what they want. But unfortunately, the caregivers put in a position where they have to take on a lot and when I often speak at caregiver conferences, one of the big questions that are asked is, why should I be taking care of him?

Jennifer Cobb: Would see when I went through Little League football, he never showed up to any of my games. And now I got to stop my life, I'm a husband, and I'm starting my own family, and I've got kids, and I got to raise it. he wants me to stop my life and I gotta take care of him. when I needed him, where was he's not there for…

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Joshua Berglan: Yeah.

Jennifer Cobb: Then when I went through Little League, she never showed up to any, my ballet recitals. I gotta stop my life and take care of her. 30 years ago, So, how do you meet the person where they're at? That they're not the same person where they were.

Joshua Berglan: Yeah.

Jennifer Cobb: Back then. And so there's a lot of emotional history that has to be unraveled and how do you get through that? And so I speak about a lot of that so the caregiver is the one that we really really focus on educating. My father was on hospice for four years hospices, not your deathbed. You don't call this service when you're taking your last breath, there's different levels of hospice and…

Joshua Berglan: Yeah. Yeah.

Jennifer Cobb: you can graduate from level to level, which is awesome. But people think that word means that they're dying. I mean, my dad had art therapy once a week animal therapy once a week. He had the barber show up once a month in his nails done and his toes done by the pedicure and manicures every two weeks, he had music therapy and artists come in and play. I want to sign up for hospice. honestly, my dad is winning. He had women coming and going all day long. I mean, Ty Cobb had a smile on his face. Absolutely, hospice is a really good

Jennifer Cobb: Program. It's got great services and that's what we do with Gateway to occur. Is we announce that we allow people to understand if you want to stay home, What a great opportunity and there are options for you. And you can learn so much of that through teamgatewaytoacure.org.

Joshua Berglan: That. first of all, I didn't know that you guys shipped it. That is such a need I can speak to it. a thousand different ways because when I was working with complex disabilities, I also worked with pediatrics. and I'm sure you've seen this moms Trying to pick up and fold a tilt in space manual wheelchair, that weighs 75 pounds, it's awkward. I mean the caregivers are just as important as the patient.

Joshua Berglan: Because the patient has no chance without the caregivers but if the more education and…

Jennifer Cobb: Correct.

Joshua Berglan: knowledge that a caregiver has the more likely to a successful recovery or rehabilitation. The patient has…

Jennifer Cobb: Yep.

Joshua Berglan: because one of the things that I noticed over the years and I haven't been in the industry in a long time. but when I was negotiating contracts with the heads of insurance companies on behalf of the patients after we sold our company, I took that position I learned a lot about the healthcare system, and I already knew it was screwed up, but getting to see it from a different angle, from the shareholders side of things, it really opened my eyes and these insurance companies. Care about the shareholders. Only they don't care about the patient, so when we would negotiate contracts, we would have to make it sound.

Joshua Berglan: It was there. We had to make it their idea to give us more money. So we had to convince them by giving us more money, they would save money. That was our argument and it worked because we would have to prove it. but one of the things that we used to tell our patients, Is that you have to appeal everything because an insurance company at that time would deny that the percentage of they knew that 93% of denied claims. And that number could be different now than 93% of denied claims would never get appealed. Therefore, they would just deny them that little fact alone. That for a caregiver, would that saved so much money because what happens,…

Jennifer Cobb: Unbelievable.

Joshua Berglan: if they had a pocket, they get stuck in debt. There's all of these little things that the case managers at the hospital, the rehab facility, they don't tell you,

Joshua Berglan: So what you're doing is so important.

Jennifer Cobb: They don't.

Joshua Berglan: What type of education are you providing for the caregivers?

Jennifer Cobb: Good question. So Most people that are reaching out for help. The baby Boomer in, that age group have. Tendency to think hospice last stage of life, right? So…

Joshua Berglan: Right.

Jennifer Cobb: what we do is we have lots of resources on the website to help connect, you, and educate you.

Jennifer Cobb: Hospices in every single city town that we all live in. And there's multiple hospice programs. How awesome for you. If that's what your place, you're in to interview and see what each hospice programs offer. And just get to choose from your interview process, Bring Them in the Home. If you look at hospice, the number one, objective mission statement with all of them across the board, is taking care of the caregiver and what is in the best interest for them. If they're unable to care for the patient, then that's where hospice comes in to help For instance, there's a hospice unit in town and my mom would call the ambulance come pick Dad up, take them to make that my mom called The hospice camp.

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Jennifer Cobb: The ambulance would come pick them up, put them in that ambulance, drive them to camp. Hospice unit. He'd stay there for the weekend, all the ladies, new tie, exactly what he liked to eat. They knew all the games he liked to play, had it all the author. My mom would have the whole weekend with girlfriends, to get some jobs, errands ran. She can catch up on house cleaning. She might even go visit a family member or two, whatever it is. Sunday morning, ambulance, picks up Thai brings him home, happy hospice camp weekend. But that's a that hospice program, offered the art therapy,…

Joshua Berglan: Mmm.

Jennifer Cobb: the animal therapy, all of the different therapies. Maybe it's once a week, maybe it's every two weeks, maybe it's once a month, maybe it's every day, whatever your smorg is for that. You choose fits into your lifestyle, is how it works. And the big question I get all the time is, How come my doctor doesn't talk about it? Great question. How come doctors don't push the hospice, right? They don't push the hospice for two reasons. Number one. That The hospice programs. Were in the past. We're getting the doctors were

Jennifer Cobb: They were working with them under the table. And getting kickbacks. And the insurance companies found out about it. and so, They stopped doing that because it put the doctor in risk. Number two, these patients Up until I think. Just very recently Joshua, you had to stay in the hospice doctor network. But you don't have to do that anymore. You can go to any doctor you want. Before you had to go to Their hospice doctor for my dad. It was in their neurologist. Now it's not,…

Joshua Berglan: Yeah.

Jennifer Cobb: it's not that way anymore, so there's a lot more flexibility, it's paid for,…

Joshua Berglan: That's good.

Jennifer Cobb: it's paid through the government. It's a government assisted program. You don't have to pay anything based on the level that you qualify for. so,

Joshua Berglan: That's impressive.

Joshua Berglan: What's it? Expecting her to disappear. hopefully, she'll come back. She's incredible, right?

Joshua Berglan: that what she's talking about with Hospice's interesting because I haven't Like it, I remember you had to go to the person in network. there you are. Welcome back.

Jennifer Cobb: Yeah. Welcome back commercial break. Yeah. But as I was saying, there's a lot of these dinner uction Raising lots of money for the diseases and cures and those are really important, but guess who's sitting right next to them a caregiver and they show up every day never complaining. Hopefully. But they don't complain because you have the June cleaver mentality and a lot of these ladies who are that, mostly the women taking care of their husbands or the husbands taking care of their lives in the home as the primary caregiver. And so, There's a little bit of an attachment of arrogance that goes along with that. What I mean is They take on all of the ownership of caregiving.

Jennifer Cobb: They don't want anyone else to help him because they know exactly…

Joshua Berglan: Sure.

Jennifer Cobb: what they need the patient needs. They've got to do it all, they got to cook, they got to clean, they got to do all the laundry. They got to do, all the medicine, the therapy, they got to do it all, because that's their mindset. it's very selfish of you to deny other family members to come in and say, Let me make dinner for one night a week, maybe? How about you go and…

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Joshua Berglan: Sure.

Jennifer Cobb: go and do an errand and I sit and talk to Dad, or Mom, get you out of the house so you can have some restless so, it's just interesting to see how much education that these. caregivers truly need To get to educate themselves so that they can be the best version of who they are when my dad passed away. My mom. Put her keys down. She just doesn't remember things like What's your identity now? Who is she's not given medicine and helping with therapy and changing diapers and feeding and cleaning and doing what She was losing she didn't know who she was anymore.

Jennifer Cobb: and in my dad, I told my mom, I'm like you're his wife. You're not his nurse. Let hospice come in and help out. Let family members come in, don't deny us To create a balance in the home and what that looks like. And then she finally let go of the control because they want to control. So they feel like they're gonna maybe make a difference. if I do enough and maybe he'll go back to where he used to be, He's not going to go back to Pre Parkinson's. It's not going to happen.

Jennifer Cobb: though you've got to learn how to understand those transitions and how to meet the person where they're at, because they're not going to go backwards, they're just going to continue and as they're continuing to generate Enjoy them. Don't talk about the disease and the medicine, my dad wants to sit with a dude. He wants to do talk and the stock market wants to talk about the war. He wants to talk about cowboys and Indians. Lots of comedy on the TV. He doesn't want to talk about his Parkinson's, So let him be a dude. Let him just enjoy. Where he's In the process, he knows he's going to go. But we don't have to keep reminding him every single minute and…

Joshua Berglan: Yeah.

Jennifer Cobb: care to him, like he's a child.

Joshua Berglan: That's so such good advice. It's so sound. and it's so bored thinking, too that what you're doing. And you're right about the caregiver and this goes across the board because with any disability, it's not just caregivers matter,…

Jennifer Cobb: Yeah.

Joshua Berglan: caregivers, even for mental health issues, I am so grateful that I have a partner that she's helped Navigate a lot of really challenging mental issues as I've healed and it's because I have an educated caregiver so to speak and not a real caregiver. But I mean she has been to me like it's on a lighter level.

Jennifer Cobb: Absolutely.

Joshua Berglan: It has been that and also a manager and other thing but having that has helped me navigate. Some very awkward challenging situations with how my brain will. Change things, and whether it's the disassociation of identity disorder, and I'm being tested for ASD right now. which I thrive with because I've had a caregiver or someone in my life, that cares enough and is a knowledgeable to help me navigate and go. Yeah, that was actually real or know that wasn't real, And those are,…

Jennifer Cobb: Right. Yep.

Joshua Berglan: those are the challenges I have. So I'm hoping As healthcare continues to evolve and change. That we start looking and focusing it for caregivers and start funding caregivers across across all medical issues.

Jennifer Cobb: Right, right? Yeah. And there's a caregiver in siblings caring for their younger siblings. There could be a single mother caring as an adult child caring for their parents. As well as themselves that they might have something they're battling as well as their children.

Joshua Berglan: Yeah.

Jennifer Cobb: And it comes in so many different packages but educating the caregiver is important. And I'm so honored and blessed to be, a part of, educating and getting the resources out through team gateway to a cure, my foundation. And you can go to the website, www.teamgateway to a care.org and get more information Reach out to me. I'm happy to help understand a little bit more of if you are stuck. What does that look like? I get email all the time. Jen, I'm in a different state. That's thank goodness for technology FaceTime for 30 minutes,…

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Joshua Berglan: Was about to ask you that question.

Jennifer Cobb: maybe you can't be there. But, there's a thing called Maybe you grubhub one meal that mom or so, instead doesn't have to cook and give them a break from another meal. There's so many options it's just about create grandkids,…

Joshua Berglan: Sure.

Jennifer Cobb: grandkids, maybe you're in a different state, all across a different part of the world. Thank goodness for FaceTime. Let's face time, Grandpa or your loved one or whoever's going through whatever and FaceTime for 20 minutes, maybe just send them and let her in the mail. I don't know. There's so many different great options, it's just about starting the conversation.

Joshua Berglan: Tell me about the documentary.

Jennifer Cobb: So yes, House of Arms is about the life of Tom House. Who is battling Parkinson's, Tom House? If you Google him, his very well known in the NFL arena as the quarterback coach behind the scenes. Brady Tom Brady is Tom Brady because of Tom House, he's a Biomechanic Doctor guru with House of Arms, his last great name for the movie, he also works with Major League Baseball pitchers. He's he's the player that caught Hank, Aaron's ball in the go Years and years ago. Yeah, but he never was quite the best picture, but he was very talented. But over the years, he's worked with,

Jennifer Cobb: He's worked with Tom Brady, Randy Johnson with the baseball. He's worked with

Jennifer Cobb: Tebow, he's worked with Drew Breeses in the movie. Matt Jones with the Patriots. He's working. Do some work with him, but he looks at the mechanics of the arm and in the whole body alignment and how that works. And so, what he has done for so many athletes all over the world. He's now using those same concepts to battle the biggest disease of his life and that's Parkinson's. And so…

Joshua Berglan: .

Jennifer Cobb: what he does through the movie, it's twofold a unravels and tests all these different therapies for neurological disorders, which is great for the up and coming, medical student, and doctors neurologists to see what truly is out there and being tested all over the world. But then the other side is The one that is behind the scenes, his wife Marie House, who will her and I speak a lot in the movie about what it's like behind the scenes, to be a caregiver and the traveling caregivers that travel with time where he's traveled, all over the world, helping athletes in baseball and football and how his traveling caregivers care for Tom while he battles his Parkinson's disease. So I'm really honored the trailer is just about finished. We are filming with Brady in a few more weeks for one more

Jennifer Cobb: Seen and then Tom Brady's coming out with his own movie that Tom House is involved in. yeah and I'm excited. I'll keep you posted. You can go to the website teamgateway to a cure.org and get more information about the trailer release. It'll be about a 12 to 15 minute trailer, it's gonna be long and then they'll go into post production and it'll be released. So

Joshua Berglan: Are you guys doing theatric? You're gonna self host it or self-distribute? What are you gonna do?

Jennifer Cobb: Yeah. Yeah. So the trailer will, we're gonna have a huge event in Boston. There's a place.

Joshua Berglan: 

Jennifer Cobb: What's a new balance? Just built a beautiful indoor track and they offered to host the trailer viewing and…

Joshua Berglan: If you need an MC.

Jennifer Cobb: so I'll definitely send you an invite would love Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

Joshua Berglan: Don't tease me all I'm serious.

Jennifer Cobb: That's true. Yeah.

Joshua Berglan: I'll start walking now, I would love to see that event.

Jennifer Cobb: Yeah. No. Yeah. Yeah.

Joshua Berglan: I got to meet a lot of the people that you mentioned filming the Super Bowl commercial three years ago down and when I was still living in That was a dream getting to be around all of my favorite athletes from a lifetime.

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Jennifer Cobb: Nice. Yes.

Joshua Berglan: But that crowd is a lot of fun and yeah.

Jennifer Cobb: It is, and it's it's so much fun and the NFL actually is having me and all the alumni's December 15th in LA for Rams, football game, we're going to go back on the field and perform, so I'm excited about that. So yeah, lots of good things happening Author of the Year. Yeah.

Joshua Berglan: So you are okay, That was another question. I was gonna ask because I thought I remembered that. You became a Ram's cheerleader, As they went to St. Louis. and…

Jennifer Cobb: And inaugural season.

Joshua Berglan: so I did remember that correctly but you're still involved with them and now that they're in LA. So that's so cool. It's almost like full circle.

Jennifer Cobb: Yeah, yeah. They invite the alumni's, they really truly want us to still be involved so they have an alumni game each year since covid there hadn't been one, but now, they just brought it back. So, December 15th, I'll be on the field. mom's just, We're.

Joshua Berglan: Can you still tumble?

Jennifer Cobb: Gonna do. we don't tumble on the field, we're dancers. But Yeah,…

Joshua Berglan: I know that you are gymnast though so that's why I was asking.

Jennifer Cobb: And I can still hold us a split. I can still do a backflip but that's about Max honestly a cartwheel.

Joshua Berglan: It hurts so bad.

Jennifer Cobb: I can totally do one-handed but

Joshua Berglan: It hurts, it could have something the fact that I wake 240 pounds but maybe that's…

Jennifer Cobb: Yeah.

Joshua Berglan: why it hurts and have had two back surgeries. Hey, I am fun still and…

Jennifer Cobb: you're so fun.

Joshua Berglan: I'm serious about him I want to ask you now Tell me about the children's books because I didn't know about this.

Jennifer Cobb: So Yes, it's called Chair for Care and it's about a little girl named Christina who goes to school and she's got something on her mind. So she comes home off the school bus. And she asks, her mom that she's noticed that her dad Is not acting the same. And so her mom tells her that he has Parkinson's. And so,…

Joshua Berglan: Mmm.

Jennifer Cobb: of course, the younger generation. So technology savvy, technically a lot better than I am. So she goes online and researches all of these, the information of what Parkinson's is and the neurological disorder. And what she does is she comes up since with some really creative to the eyes of a child, the creativity that comes out how she brings smiles to her dad's face. And so the book talk goes through, Christina and how she is actually a caregiver that does not have to take a lot of money. There's no money involved. I'll The most. Innocent creativity, just spontaneous ways that Christina.

Jennifer Cobb: Cares for her dad and it's a sweet little story. I was honored to meet with Maxine Clark who's the CEO and founder of Build-a-bear and…

Joshua Berglan: Mmm.

Jennifer Cobb: I showed her the book and she thought it was so sweet and she came up with the idea of doing the second book which would be Christina's best friend confides in her on the way home from school, that she's noticed something about a family member and how the two come together and collaborate on some creative ways. The younger generation is very philanthropic, they want to give back, they want to serve we don't give them enough credit.

Joshua Berglan: Yeah.

Jennifer Cobb: It does not cost a dime to have that creativity in your loved one's home. And so it's interesting through these children stories, how children can relate To. That sort of situation for instance, if you're a grandfather or grandmother, look at a grandparent when their kid grandkids come in the room, their eyes light up. that's the symbolism that is coming through. This book, the story, Chair for care.

Joshua Berglan: you're my coolest friend. I think you're so inspiring, I

Jennifer Cobb: Okay.

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Joshua Berglan: I mean, I have cool friends but I love…

Jennifer Cobb: Super cool.

Joshua Berglan: how You've put all of these pieces together. It's not like a lot of people they focus it on one thing and they just ride that the whole way. and it's an easy thing to fall into You're expressing your gifts and talents through all of these different mediums And for me again because I do the same thing, it's inspiring but getting to see it from this side, what you're doing? It's gosh it, since I keep saying it's inspiring but it is and…

Jennifer Cobb: Thank you so much.

Joshua Berglan: it's encouraging. So what's next for you? Because you're not done, you still have all the energy that you did when you were cheering for the Rams and you've got these new projects. But I know this is not it for you. So what's next?

Jennifer Cobb: So right now I'm gonna really focus on the release of the movie and see where that goes. We've got some March March. I said the word that I'm creating with the director right now, and I'm excited about that and just enjoying finalizing the book I need to publish it still. There's us the end project that I have to follow through on that. I'd love to get the book in children's hospitals. Libraries even neurological doctors offices. Because if you look at Parkinson's, the majority a lot, the age category, they are grandparents. be a great story for grandparents to read to their children.

Joshua Berglan: Yeah.

Jennifer Cobb: So, that's kind of where I'm holding pattern right now. And then once the movie gets Based it goes into a different category from documentary, into major motion picture and who will play townhouse. I think there's been some whisper behind the scenes of Mark Wahlberg. If you look at some of the younger pictures of Tom House, kind of looks a little bit like Mark. Maybe with a little bit of a hair wig. But yeah. So I'm just gonna kind of let the Lord just kind of walk me through and just kind of stay quiet right now and see how these couple of projects, got to finish those out and we'll see what comes around the corner.

Joshua Berglan: I'm Rooting for you,…

Jennifer Cobb: thank you.

Joshua Berglan: the whole way. And anything I can do to help or support what you're doing. I'm in Just let me know and I'm in…

Jennifer Cobb: You're so sweet.

Joshua Berglan: because I love what you're doing.

Jennifer Cobb: That means so much to hear. I was so excited to talk with you today. No. There's Internet issue or something that happened and…

Joshua Berglan: For two weeks.

Jennifer Cobb: I always like so sad, I'm like, I couldn't wait to see you.

Joshua Berglan: I know I was I literally no Internet for two weeks, but that was kind of strange too, because that worked out to be a blessing. Because I think we were talking about this earlier. I had to step back from what I was doing long enough. To let it breathe and for me to actually see what I was doing because I was just head down driving forward and didn't come up for breath. That allowed me to step back and go, and then all of these new ideas. And so I rebuilt a platform my new platform. and I

Jennifer Cobb: Nice.

Joshua Berglan: Kind of honed in the vision a little bit more and then some of the details and the specifics and the strategy of how I was going to move forward and how I was going to incorporate ai and blah blah. So that two weeks was the greatest gift for What I'm doing even…

Jennifer Cobb: Author.

Joshua Berglan: though in the middle it took me about It four days of freaking out and…

Jennifer Cobb: You're going through a busy withdrawals.

Joshua Berglan: then I go. now it's a bluffing. Yeah, because I kept ig I was trying to hack into other people's internet, like this is not working out for me.

Jennifer Cobb: You're so cute.

Joshua Berglan: How am I gonna get work done? Because the town I live in. They have a city Internet. but, It's not fast enough to do any of the things that I need. So I like this is not working but it all worked out eventually

Jennifer Cobb: that's great. I'm happy.

Joshua Berglan: I'm glad that we got to talk and I know that somehow some way we're gonna work together and collaborate together on something and…

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Jennifer Cobb: Yep.

Joshua Berglan: I'm sincere when I say anything I can do to support you and what you're doing. again, I worked with complex disabilities for 18 years, I understand what you're doing, Parkinson's as affected, my family, amongst dementia, and other things, and so for humanity, your heart for what you do. But also, you're determination is something that is inspired me for years. And having this conversation has just lit a huge fire in me, and I'm so thankful for you.

Jennifer Cobb: you're so sweet the kindest words ever? Thank you so much and it's been such a joy and a delight to finally sit with you and have some good combo. And I'm always here for you too. I want to be one of those in your circle. I want you to reach out to me. I've got your blind spot and, any Time of the day you can call me reach out to me and I'm always there for you even if it's another set of ideas to look at something, I'm there.

Joshua Berglan: I'm very appreciative of that. So please take this moment to have the last words and also plug anything you want to plug.

Jennifer Cobb: yeah so if you're out there and listening and our inspired by the words and the things that we've talked about or if you just want more information and resources that are in your town where you live teamgatewaytoaccure.org, So wonderful website I've spent good year, mastering it and getting it to a point to where you can navigate through the website and get so much money Great information stories out there. Resources of hospice in your town and shoot me an email. I'm always happy to hop on a call or respond to an email anything because I know there's someone out there that's going through it and you're not alone, there's always somebody that is there to help you through it. So, team gateway to a care, dad or

Joshua Berglan: You're a blessing. I look forward to seeing you in person sometime soon.

Jennifer Cobb: Yes in person. Absolutely. God bless Thank you again for having me and always a joy to see you Joshua.

Joshua Berglan: Good joy to see God bless you.

Jennifer Cobb: Okay, bye-bye.

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